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Re: [RC] [RC] Camping on the cheap and coffee - Jim SimpsonLaurie, I don't have pictures. In one of your other posts about west Nile you mentioned MN.. Are you in Minnesota? if so you'll run into me at the rides and I'll be more than happy to show you where we are at with our trailer. We have a 22 ft Titan with 8X12 living quarters to work with. Most of our supplies came from menards and HQ red tag clearance sales. My trailer has a walk through door into the horse area so it gives us a lot of convenient storage and port a potty/shower room once the horses are off the trailer without sacrificing LQ space. And yes they do look at me like I'm nuts when I'm shopping for ideas. Most of my ideas came from hours of searching plans and floor layouts on the net. I drug Jim through every trailer at the horse expo looking at what we liked and did not like last year as well as begging to look at every trailer we came across that had living quarters. We are still in the process of putting ours together. Here are some of the things that did work real well. Our trailer came with carpeting..like I'd ever what that in a horse trailer. I got the maple hard word floor laminate off the clearance sale. The stuff the snaps together. Since I had carpet we just used that as our backing. It fits right into the trailer and is basically a floating floor snugged in with shims. For our walls, I have 1 inch ribs in the trailer wall and ceiling. I used the 1 inch polystyrene foam insulation between the ribs and the 3m spray adhesive that goes with it. Jim then screwed in 3/8 plywood over all the walls on top of the foam. That gives us something to screw and nail into with added strength. This has held up really well with the temperature extremes and the added insulation keeps the trailer much more comfortable in cold and hot weather. We used the same insulation in the ceiling but I skipped the plywood. Our ceiling is a birch beaded paneling that was put up with liquid nails and metal screws. We did leave the upper corners of the trailer open because we want access to the wiring and trailer running lights if we ever have a problem. We are planning to hang cabinets so the gap will be hidden + we'll have small stuff storage there. Our outlets and plug ins will be on the underside of the cabinets, again so we can have fairly easy access to wiring. Plumbing, gas lines etc will be on the floor under the cabinets for the same reason. For pretty (my favorite part), I used wainscoting and the press board paneling that looks like wall paper. The panel board is made to go on with a glue similar to liquid nails. I goes right over the plywood. I used regular light fixtures but wired them with 12 volt and use the 12 volt light bulbs at you can also get at the home store. We are going to use some of the 12 volt under counter light ropes etc for softer lighting in the goose. Another good place to check out for stuff that works is big boating stores. They make water tanks etc for use where space is a premium. Cabellos or an RV outfitter is a good place to look for inverters and converters if you need to switch from AC to DC or DC to AC power. If you are lucky enough to come across an RV camper damaged by a storm you can usually save a bunch by stripping everything out of it. I am also very lucky that I have Jim who is wonderful at woodworking and wiring. That helps lots. My guess is that by the time we are done we will have put $2000 into the living quarters (that's with a full kitchen). Sounds like a lot, but if you have the time it's sure cheaper than buying the trailer already done. Hopes this helps anyone who is trying to do this. We are figuring it out as we go. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurie Durgin <ladurgin@xxxxxxx> To: <simpson@xxxxxxxx>; <milinda@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [RC] Camping on the cheap and coffee This is timely, My husbandis thinking about converting our gooseneck, it is a 3h slant featherlite, econolite. He wants to move the wall back to the first stall, but I am iffy about that.It has a 2.5 foot of so short wall and the door is on the long wall. He really wants a shower and potty.I wander around Lowes and Home Depot "gettting ideas" and the sales people think I am wacko, cause I keep saying "I"m just thinking". So how about SOME PICTURES?????? thanks Laurie and RascalFrom: "Jim Simpson" <simpson@xxxxxxxx> To: "Milinda Ellis" <milinda@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] Camping on the cheap and coffee Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 09:41:31 -0600 Yes, I'm referring to the marine batteries, or what is known as an RV battery, just like in the big people campers. When we were in the process of still getting this put together, I found little jumper clamps at Wal-Mart and wired them to the (male end I think) of a truck plug in connection. Then I could slide my battery under the front of my trailer and plug my trailer light connection to the marine battery and have po_________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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