[RC] Trailering - heidi sowardsI have a friend with an older mare who scrambles around every corner in a straight load. She will ride in a slant, no dividers just fine though. Needs to really spread out! Another friend has a mare that panics and they found if she rides backwards in a slant she's wonderful. My gelding scrambled on the way to a ride on any left turns and actually fell down. It was a straight load with a divider, he's been in an open 2 horse and did fine and has been in my trainer's slant and did fine even with the dividers. (She owns the mare who rides backwards.) So we're gonna try a slant and drop dividers and see how he wants to ride as a trial. good luck! heidi --- Laurie Durgin <ladurgin@xxxxxxx> wrote: He is "scrambling", heard if you corner to fast ,etc. some horses will"learn" to do this.Unfortunately I know a few and they say once they do this it's really hard to stop it. Both the trainers I know won't put a scrambler next to an end wall.They also sometimes take the dividers out, if only hauling one.Sometimes they lightly tranqualize them to take the edge off. YOu might try distracting him(works with some) with a haynet and some hay while traveling.Some trainers also haul"loose", they take dividers out and don't tie and let the horse find his own balance. Unfortuanately I have another friend who rescued a arab/saddlebred and he was locked up all but an hour a day., Became a weaver,and charged, reared, etc.Wouldn't load,(well they tranq. him to get him out during hurricanes. Ended up neurotic. He first wouldn't load, then would weave and tear the trailer down to get out. They sent him to a trainer who specialized with these horses and even used him in a clinic. Good news , he learned to load easy. But "won't stay in" without going bananas"Tried everything.She basically has to tranqualize him to take him anywhere.Now he was a hard case. One of our ponies would paw if we stopped, now my gelding is starting to do it.I guess they 'think" they get to get off if it stops sooner. I'd try to get him away from the wall for a while, where he can't brace.I'm sure he thinks he is falling when you go down hill and he feels trapped and panics.Best of luck Laurie and RAscalFrom: "Linda" <Elite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] Trailering Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:20:20 -0500 We are having a trailering problem with a 9 yogelding we've owned alittle over a year. Our trailer is a two horse slantload with a dividerbetween the two horses. The problem is that when wehaul him and go downeven a slight incline he panics and scrambles with hisfeet. It is hard toexplain but he is actually scraping up the front wall (wall in-betweenliving quarters and hauling area). I rode back with himto see exactlywhat he was doing and he is throwing his body againstthe divider (on hisleft) and his feet are climbing the wall on his rightside. Sometimes itis so violent that his left rear leg gets scraped upbad. We have triedwrapping legs and shipping boots and it just seems tomake it worse and hegets them loose enough to try to kick them off too. Hedoesn't always dothis... I would say that he did it a little when wefirst got him, thenquit for several months, but has been doing it for onand off for the lastseveral months. The problem is that I can't figure outwhat is causing itor what might be different when he is or isn't doing it.He loads verywell... doesn't seem to dislike the trailer, and standsfine when we aren'tmoving. The only time I've seen him do this is whenwe are going downhill.... even slightly. (And in east TN there is allotof hills). I havetried creeping down hills and when I hear him panic andstart bangingaround, I stop let him get his composure and then creepagain. No luck.We are considering moving him to the back slot, but amconcerned that hewould try his maneuver and end up on his side! Or weare consideringtaking him in the trailer alone with the gate latchedopen so he doesn'thave anything to lean against. Or maybe hauling himbackwards, is that apossibility? We really feel sorry for this guy, whenhe gets in thesepanic modes he is really scared! We haul this guyquite a bit... andlike I said, sometimes he can go months without ithappening. Has anyoneever seen something like this or have any suggestions? Linda _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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