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    Re: [RC] [RC] Exempts private property, military lands and all plant lifefrom ESA (fw - Heidi Smith


    > Sonoma county sports numerous examples of creekbeds sterilized by farmers
    > wanting a few more square yards of crops or churned to mud by cattle. I
    > noticed even more of the same in Alberta when we were there this summer.
    > All, I'm sure, by agrarians who would be the first to claim to love the
    land
    > and be stewards of it. Pardon my cynicism; it's based in experience.
    
    I hope you didn't say that with your mouth full.  Pardon my cynicism, but it
    has been my long-standing experience that those with a political agenda like
    to throw around buzzwords like "sterilized" when in fact there is no such
    problem.  Maintenance work in a streambed does not "sterilize" the
    stream--it may alter the flora and fauna for a short section, for a short
    period of time, but no more than that.  The closest thing I've ever seen to
    "sterilization" of a stream occurred due to mine tailings on the creek where
    I grew up, where the chemicals used to extract ore were leeched directly
    into the stream.  This happened in the 20's.  When I was a child (late 50's,
    early 60's), the lower part of the stream had recovered entirely, the plant
    life was back everywhere but directly on the tailings piles, and the only
    noticeable effect was that there were not yet any fish back in that fork of
    the stream.  (The lower stream had plenty.)  By the late 70's, the fish were
    back in the upper fork as well.  By the 90's, one could still make out the
    tailings piles, but there was no other evidence of a problem.  Modern
    agriculture doesn't even begin to do such damage--and yet despite the
    severity of that insult, Mother Nature healed herself completely.  BTW,
    there is less evidence now of that problem than there is of the sterilizing
    fires in northern Idaho that occurred circa 1910, when too much ladder fuel
    had accumulated.  The political climate of the past couple of decades
    allowed the same situation to develop here in central Idaho, thanks to folks
    like you who think that everyone is out to rape the land.  The net result is
    soil sterilization that may well still be evident in 100 years.  While
    mismanagement is indeed undesirable, I would submit that misguided
    non-intervention is just as damaging, if not moreso.  Doctors no longer
    practice medicine with 1920's standards; likewise farmers no longer farm
    with 1920's methods.  I'm leery of anyone who points fingers at an entire
    industry the way you have here, with the insinuation that they are "earth
    killers"--I believe that was the insulting phrase you used in one of your
    earlier posts.  And again, I hope you haven't eaten today--if you have, you
    owe a debt of gratitude to the American farmer, who feeds more people than
    any counterpart of his at any time in history, and does so with less
    invasive methods and more efficiency than even a decade ago.
    
    Heidi
    
    
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