I think if you look, you'll see it all the
time.
In the herd, make a wrong move you get
punished. Behave, you get left alone. (release of pressure is a
reward from what I read).
Operant conditioning is around us all the
time. We just don't know it.
Clicker training strikes me as another example
(correct me if I'm wrong).
Charles
PS: It isn't a dog training issue.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:15
PM
Subject: Re: [RC] "[Horses] don't
understand reward and punishment"
I'm talking about how they think and behave in a herd. If you think
your horse thinks like your dog go right ahead and treat them that way.
Todays horses do all kinds of unnatural things, why should operant
conditioning be so hard to learn. I just don't see it happening
naturally in a herd. I'll keep looking though;-) Jennifer.
"A. Perez" <walkergirl@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Ok,
it's a boring day at work, so I am probably responding to too many RC
posts, so ignore this if you like - I won't be offended ;-)
I
have to beg to differ. Operant conditioning has been used successfully
on animals as lowly as earthworms and jellyfish. If an animal
experiences a positive stimulus (aka "reward") while doing something, it
is more likely to repeat doing that soimething. If the reward is
repeated on a variable schedule, it behavior is more likely to be
repeated, and persist, even when the rewards are stopped. Conversly, if
an animal experiences a negative stimulous ("punishment") when doing
something, it is less likely do do it again. Timing is everything,
however: the pos/neg stimulous must immediately accompany the behavior
being reinforced/dsicouraged. You can't tell the horse "I'm beating you
now because you ate your blanket last night" - it will have no idea what
the punishment is for, and probably will associate the pushment with
whatever it was doing at the time the beating commenced. Read Karen
Pryor's "Don't Beat The Dog" for an excellent introduction to operant
conditioning (yes, I know I have recommended this book 100 times before,
but it really is good, and is an easy read, and it is NOT a dog training
book, despite the
title).
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