Regarding Howard's comments;
I have to wonder how many years and experiences you have
with horses. Do you even know the difference between an untrained animal
and a spoiled animal?.
To me, the person who is "horrible" is the person who does
not correct whatever dangerous behavior (not tieing, rearing, bucking, kicking),
generally making some excuse for the horse, and then SELLS it or passes it along
to someone who will get hurt. Lets jab the person with a pitchfork who
sold me the so-called kids horse, that would REAR every time it did not get it's
way.
John Lyons tying methods work great as a training method
with horses that have not learned to give to pressure. There is a world of
difference between them, and a spoiled horse, that ONCE knew what to do, but due
to clueless people learned it could pull back-rear-buck-kick etc, when it
did not want to do something.
Why is it important for horses to lead, tie, load, have
their feet and mouth handled, etc? Lets not even adress riding safely,
lets assume a person wants a pasture pet. So....what happens when the
horse needs worning, shots, feet done, transporting and YOU, as an owner can't
make horsie behave? You then put the danger on the farrier, vet,
hauler, etc. Are YOU willing to trim this horse and promise to do all vet
work yourself? No, you are going to expose THEM to this dangerous
animal.
And, if the horse truly cannot be reformed...well, a 1,000
lb. animal with steel-shod feet is a liability and danger to you and anyone else
that has to handle the unfortunate animal. So lets take it out in public
on an endurance ride and inflict it on everyone else.
Howard, I thought you had at least a crumb of common sense
after you spoke up about the risks of preschoolers on endurance rides. But
sounds like one of the risks out there, on out-of-control horses is
YOU.
See, I can explain this without calling you names, but it
sure sounds to me like you get your jollies by riding horses that are either out
of control, or look like they are out of control. This does not impress
anyone.
And, once this horse figured out it could no longer pull
back to get it's way.....well, suddenly, all the bad behaviour disapears, now
you can bridle this horse, open it's mouth, load it nicely, and touch it all
over.
The horse has an pleasant and willing
attitude.
I supposed we could have done 2 years of John Lyon's
or Parelli clinics with this horse. I can guarantee, that
while that will help, the ONLY thing I have ever seen that will cure a
puller, is to have the horses tied correctly, with the right equipment, and let
the horse battle it out. A horse that blows up and pulls back, puts anyone in
the near vicinity in danger.
Personally, I am tired of people who continually make
excuses for their horses (might kick, doesn't tie, needs help loading), without
even attempting to correct it or send to a trainer....but then require help from
others....
that is how people get badly hurt.
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Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 12:18
PM
Subject: [RC] Break Their Neck
Training
Am I the only one upset with this post? What is wrong here?
This person sees herself as a rescuer, but, believes that if a horse doesn't
respond to her the way he should than the horse is "dog food?" Breaking
the horse's neck is a risk she's willing to take? Is this some sort of tongue
and cheek humor I don't get?
Please, if you're serious, do not rescue any more mishandled horses. IF
you're the rescuer, who on earth was the abuser? Attila, the horse
eating Hun? For the sake of the species, all breeds, I really don't
think they need your type of help. Who trained you to train horses like
this? Was his name Radical Ralph, the Red necked Rancher & Risk
Taker (notice who is at risk here)? I do believe someone needs to poke
you in the butt with a pitch fork for being the one who is most stupid
here. Allow me. And, yes, I do find you to be quite horrible, even
with those horse treats in your hand.
cya,
Howard (somehow, I don't think she bothered with any of the John
Lyon's courses)
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