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    Re: [RC] Break Their Neck Training - Jessica Spoone


    For once I have to say I totally agree with Howard. If this is what you do when you rescue them then pleaqse leave em where they are.
    Jess
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 3:18 PM
    Subject: [RC] Break Their Neck Training

    Am I the only one upset with this post?  What is wrong here?  This person sees herself as a rescuer, but, believes that if a horse doesn't respond to her the way he should than the horse is "dog food?"  Breaking the horse's neck is a risk she's willing to take? Is this some sort of tongue and cheek humor I don't get?
     
    Please, if you're serious, do not rescue any more mishandled horses. IF you're the rescuer, who on earth was the abuser?  Attila, the horse eating Hun?  For the sake of the species, all breeds, I really don't think they need your type of help.  Who trained you to train horses like this?  Was his name Radical Ralph, the Red necked Rancher & Risk Taker (notice who is at risk here)?  I do believe someone needs to poke you in the butt with a pitch fork for being the one who is most stupid here.  Allow me.  And, yes, I do find you to be quite horrible, even with those horse treats in your hand.
     
    cya,
    Howard (somehow, I don't think she bothered with any of the John Lyon's courses) 
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    yep, there is no doubt, that even by tying with precautions...horses can set
    back and break their neck. To me, though, it the most important thing to have in
    place.  Having just rescued a mishandled horse that had learned to pull back to get her
    way, the first thing I was going to do before putting ANY money into this horse was to see if we could tie her and break her of the pulling habit. 
     
    I use a be-nice-halter, a strong rope with a bull snap, an unbreakable tree branch high overhead, AND a tractor innertube around the branch.  Yes, the horse panicked and pulled back several times, reared, fell down, etc.  I stand ready with rake to poke in their butt (if they are too stupid to figure out that going forward releases the pressure with the be-nice-halter), and a knife to cut the rope if things really go bad......but I AM willing to take that risk that the horse might break it's neck. In my opinion, if it can't be cured, it is dog food anyway.

    So new horse has had a couple rough days....I am not a horrible person and
    give praise and lots of treats for right behavior.....but 5 days later, this horse has
    figured it out and is not pulling back. In fact, if she even thinks the rope might tighten, she comes forward.

    If the horse pulls back to pressure....you can't pony then.....you can't tie
    them in the trailer...etc.

    If breeders would teach all their babies to tie....it would solve a LOT of
    problens when the horse gets heavier!!




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