FW: [RC] [RC] Exempts private property, military lands and all plant lifefrom ESA (fw - Mike Sherrell
"Some maintenance" is not equal to bulldozing habitat, clearcutting or
having cattle trample streambanks. What is the opposite of "ecofreek" --
earthkiller?
Mike Sherrell
Grizzly Analytical (USA)
707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834
www.grizzlyanalytical.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Morris [mailto:bobmorris@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:45 AM
To: mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RC] [RC] Exempts private property, military lands and all
plant lifefrom ESA (fw
I do believe that between Mike and Maureen we have a couple
of Ecofreeks that do not "live on the land" and realize that
some maintenance is necessary.
Bob
Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID
-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mike
Sherrell
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:04 PM
To: Ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: FW: [RC] [RC] Exempts private property, military
lands and all
plant lifefrom ESA (fw
Scraping out creekbeds is ecocide. Don't have to be a
fanatic to know that;
all you have to do is ride by one before (birds, bugs, fish,
all kinds of
animals) and after (sterile).
Mike Sherrell
Grizzly Analytical (USA)
707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834
www.grizzlyanalytical.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Barbara McCrary
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:04 AM
To: Maureen A. Fager
Cc: RIDECAMP
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Exempts private property, military
lands and all
plant lifefrom ESA (fw
Perhaps you haven't had experiences of having your private
property
controlled by the ESA, but we have. I'm sure this is a
two-edged sword, but
as property owners, we are getting quite tired of having us
restricted from
doing what we need to do on our own land. We can't clear
log jams out of
creeks, to prevent flooding and erosion during the winter
time, because
removing the jams might cause harm to the fish in the creek,
etc., etc. I,
for one, am ready for some sanity in the government. And
it's very
difficult to negotiate with the fanatical environmentalists,
because they
don't want to learn anything new; they already think they
know it all.
Maybe things are different in Reno, but in a radius of 100
miles or so of
the San Francisco Bay area, with all of its tens of
thousands of city
dwellers, they believe theirs is the ONLY WAY. Urban sprawl
should be
controlled in some other manner than denying private
property owners the
right to manage their own land. I'm all for controlled
building, up to a
point. But when it costs a person $70,000 in building
permits and all the
"studies" that are necessary in order to remodel an existing
house, and when
it takes several years to finally obtain the permit, then it
is a society
gone berserk. One of our neighbors had to relocate the site
of the house
they wished to build because of a wildflower that someone
decided was going
to be threatened. The neighbor had planned to build the
house out of sight
of the public road, but in the end was forced to build on a
hilltop in
conspicuous sight of the road. And it's a rather ugly
house, to boot.
Barbara
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maureen A. Fager" <trottin27@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Exempts private property, military
lands and all
plant lifefrom ESA (fw
>
> This type of legislation in not made so folks can "enjoy
their public
lands"
> it is made so lands can be developed. Developement takes
lands out of
> use--by destroying trails and trail heads, blocking trail
heads and other
> access to public lands.
>
> While laws can be changed and "enviromentalists" can be
negioitiated with,
> you can't negotiate with a gated community, a house built
on the
trailhead,
> a golf course or a Walmart. They are here to stay. Be
carefull what you
> wish for.
>
> Happy Trails,
> Maureen
> Reno, NV
>
> (who has seen land and trail lost to all of the above, and
more)
>
>
>
>
>
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