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    Re: [RC] Motion #4 - Truman Prevatt


    I would expect in reality this will only impact riders (and rides) in the western part of the country. Living in the east and chasing pioneer points seems to be the occupation of an unabashed optimist that would make even Polyanna proud, unless you have a whole year off to do it. In the SE we currently don't even have a 3 day ride.

    So I'm not sure the compromise makes sense or not and don't care much since it will not likely be of much impact back here. My question is what percentage of the AERC membership actually do multiday rides. We hear it is rapidly growing. Is it growing based on the number of miles or is it growing based on the number of different riders? Or maybe the better question is what percentage of AERC riders have pioneer points in any given year?

    Truman


    Terry Woolley wrote:


    Barbara,

    As you know, when the guidelines were established years back regarding the
    special sanctioning of multiday rides and the need to schedule a number of
    weeks apart, there was no way near the number of multidays that we have now.
    The problem now is that there is no way you can schedule multiday rides
    during the sometimes narrow "window of time" that is best for each ride
    without putting them "on top of each other."   The problem has been further
    compounded by the fact that 3 day rides (which also received pioneer points)
    did not have to go through special sanctioning which meant that there was no
    coordination between the scheduling of the new 3 day rides and the
    established multiday rides.  This has been a complaint of the managers of
    the multiday rides because new 3 day rides were scheduled by the regional
    director right on top of the older, established multiday rides.

    The rules require that any ride of more than 3 days or 155 miles has to be
    special sanctioned.  One of the major problems is that as it was, all three
    day 150 mile rides were eligible for pioneer points, even though they were
    not special sanctioned.  Motion 4 was a motion that would require any ride
    more than 2 days to be special sanctioned.  This would have been a serious
    problem because there are just not enough weeks during the desirable times
    to schedule all the multiday rides without putting them on top of each
    other.

    The board passed a motion that would help remedy this situation.   Rather
    than require that all three day rides be special sanctioned, the board
    adopted the policy that only 3 day rides that wanted to be eligible for
    pioneer points needed to be special sanctioned.  Ride managers who want
    their 3 day ride to receive pioneer points will need to add 5 miles to one
    of the days, making it at least 155 miles, and will need to have that ride
    special sanctioned as required by the rules.  This was a compromise of the
    Motion 4 since now ride managers who do not want to bother with the special
    sanctioning requirements (180 days leadtime, and coordinated scheduling with
    the special sanctioning director) will still submit their sanction request
    to their regional director, and the regional director is in no way obligated
    to coordinate the date with any special sanctioned ride outside of their
    region. This is not a rule change, but a policy change which gives the ride
    managers the choice of having to obtain special sanctioning, depending on
    whether they want their ride to be pioneer point eligible by adding 5 miles
    to one of the days.

    It will be interesting to see how important pioneer points are to the riders
    and whether they will travel distances to attend the pioneer point rides or
    will be just as interested in attending a nearby 3 day ride that is only 150
    miles.  It may be also, that ride managers will be pressured by their riders
    to add the 5 miles so that they can obtain pioneer points.

    Terry Woolley Howe
    Pacific Southwest Regional Director




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