Ridecamp: Re: Fw: [RC] 3 day 150 mi. Rides

Now that Swanton Pacific is over, I can get back to reading Ridecamp.
The disallowing of special events within 2 weeks of each other was a policy
as a courtesy to each special event ride manager.  It is not a written rule,
and I hope it never will be, because there are so many multi-day rides now
that if we adhered to this policy as a rule, there could never be any others
initiated.  For example:  we might like to put on Applegate-Lassen 5-day
ride again sometime.  Being a desert ride, the time frame would limited to
June or possibly September, due to weather conditions.  With the number of
multi-day rides now in place, we would not be able to offer this ride if the
"two weeks apart" policy is strictly followed.  Unless AERC is prepared to
tell prospective ride managers they cannot hold a ride, then I, and many
others, believe that rides should be handled like any commercial business.
The riders must choose which ride they will attend, even if there are three
of them on the same weekend.  If AERC started restricting the number of
rides that can be held it will be a considerable loss to the sport, and an
eager prospective ride manager should NEVER be discouraged.  New rides keep
our sport refreshing, interesting and challenging.

Barbara McCrary
Ride manager, Swanton Pacific 75/100

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Morris" <bobmorris@xxxxxxxx>
To: "Karen" <karen@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: Fw: [RC] 3 day 150 mi. Rides


> The statement <<<Special sanctioning allows for no rides to
> be held within 2 weeks of each other if they are special
> event rides, regardless of
> distance.>>> has no basis in the AERC Rules and Regulations.
> Just where is this stipulation to be found? If it is not
> with in the purview of the persons asking for sanctioning
> (i.e. the membership) then it cannot be a valid restraint.
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Morris
> Morris Endurance Enterprises
> Boise, ID
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Karen
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:58 PM
> To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Fw: [RC] 3 day 150 mi. Rides
>
>
>
> >.....and precisely WHY would these rides be axed?  Is there
> some reason
> >why they would not receive Board approval?
>
> That is why I am asking.  If these rides, many of them, have
> been going on
> for years and years then I don't see the reason to change.
> If it ain't
> broke..... (and, who wants the change here anyway, is it the
> riders who are
> in the Pioneer Standings asking for it?)
>
> >   First of all, those rides are existing rides, and hence
> >could be approved by the special sanctioning director,
> given 180 days
> >notice, without board approval.  Any such ride would only
> need board
> >approval for its first two years.  Second, such a ruling
> would not take
> >effect until the new ride season, and could not conceivably
> be made to
> >apply to any ride that is already sanctioned.
>
> Again, I am asking so I know how the rule will be applied.
> The aerc
> website shows that it would be effective December 2002.  So,
> I would like
> an answer from somebody that is a BOD member so I know how
> it is
> applied.  Riders have a right to know in advance so we can
> voice our
> opinions.
>
> >I have no particular opinion as to whether or not this
> would be a good
> >rule, although it would seem fair that all of the Pioneer
> rides be
> >administered under the same set of rules.  However, I sure
> can't see where
> >all the hysteria is coming from...
>
> Because the riders don't want to lose their choices of which
> rides they can
> go to.  Special sanctioning allows for no rides to be held
> within 2 weeks
> of each other if they are special event rides, regardless of
> distance.  This could effectively wipe out several of these
> rides.  This
> concerns me, as I do go to a lot of these rides and I just
> want to know the
> entire story.  How will this affect me in real life.  I
> would hope that the
> BOD, even if this rule is passed, would still allow a ride
> in California to
> be sanctioned during the same week as another special event
> ride say in New
> Mexico, or Washington or Kentucky.
>
> Karen
> West Region
>
>
>
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