Ridecamp: FW: [RC] Finish lines and criteria

Further to the year 2000 change to Rule 6.2.1.2;

 

The Board passed and place into force the following;

 

20Feb1999: Rules

A motion that the permanent rule process be amended as follows 1) no permanent rule will be adopted without first being published in EN and member comment solicited; and 2) no permanent rule will be adopted without a staff cost analysis having been prepared; and 3) all permanent rule proposals will be submitted and processes as per the attached process sheet(??) and 4) nothing will prevent the adoption of temporary rules immediately and without prior publication in the event of a bona fide emergency.

 

Was this ever done for the change to the rule in question?

 

Bob

 

Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID

-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bob Morris
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 7:12 PM
To: tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Jim Mitchell
Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RC] Finish lines and criteria

I believe that a review of this rule is necessary.

 

1990     6.2.1.1 All horses must stand a mandatory one hour post ride evaluation

            6.2.1.2 The horse must reach a reasonable pulse recovery based on ambient conditions

 

1995     6.2.1.2 The equine must reach a reasonable pulse recovery based on ambient conditions

 

1999     6.2.1.2 The equine must reach a reasonable pulse recovery based on ambient conditions.

 

2000     6.2.1.2 The equine must reach a reasonable pulse recovery based on ambient conditions, within 30 minutes of arrival time at all control points during the ride.

 

Now, it has been established in Rule 6.2.1.1 That all equines must stand a mandatory one hour post ride evaluation. That establishes a one hour window, after passing the finish line, that the competitor has in order to meet finish criteria. This is at the finish!  But, look closely at how the rule establishes 30 minutes at control points during the ride.  See the comma after the word "conditions" and before the word "within"? That indicates that it is acknowledged that there is a one hour window at the finish but only 30 minutes at "control points with in the ride" The finish is not a control point "within" the ride but a check after the ride.

 

Some one care to check the past minutes to see if the change made for 2000 was passed by the Board?

 

Bob

Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID

-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Truman Prevatt
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 5:53 PM
To: Jim Mitchell
Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RC] Finish lines and criteria

I just went back a read the rule and since you have not completed until you have passed the completition exam, the way I read it is you have to meet pulse at by 30 minutes after you cross the finish line. This is not the way I had understood it in the past and I don't think this is the way it has been enforced on most rides, but its what the rule says.

Truman

Jim Mitchell wrote:

         We just had the same discussion at the EHSC ride yesterday. It seems like it has always been 1 hr at the finish. The vets at the ride had always interpreted it that way. So it was left that way for this ride as many people did not return for a check within a 1/2 hour since they didn't know either.  And we discussed it and many of us felt the rule should be clarified to clearly state it is 30 minutes at all control points during the ride but 1 hour at the finish of an endurance (50+) ride.  If they start trying to do 30 minutes it just adds more work to the RM, the horses have to come back twice for the top 10 showing BC, etc. 

    So good point and maybe the BOD or rules comittee can discuss this at the upcoming board meeting.

 

   Jim Mitchell