Ridecamp: [RC] LD again

There are certain hot topics that certain people like to discuss. This is
their favorite to fight over. It rolls around about every 6 months.  It's
sort of like beating a pillow with your fist. It relieves stress. 

Something you must learn about a list this large.  You can say, "I was
riding down the trail and a naked jogger parachuted from an ultra-lite
plane spooking my horse, and you will immediately get about 3 other
sightings.  There's just a whole boatload of experiences out there.  I
was most amazed on the topic of goosenecks trailers being rolled. I've
NEVER heard of it other than on ridecamp, but there must have been 50
people who'd had that experience.  Just because one person had a bad
experience and 2 others had similar experiences does NOT mean that if you
went to 20 rides a year for 20 years that you'd have a betting chance of
it happening to you. 

Come back. Have fun. The water's fine!

Angie 

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:55:59 -0700 "TypeF" <typef@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> As a newbie who hasn't even gotten to the trail yet, I will agree 
> with you on the general impression that LD'ers are not as important 
> as the longer distancers just by the comments that have been made 
> since I joined this list a little over a week ago. My whole "happy" 
> attitude about once again joining a sport I loved is wavering a 
> little. When I rode almost 30 years ago I don't believe there were 
> 25-milers. I think it's a great addition for people like me who need 
> a place to start or start again, but are a little too chicken to put 
> their horse out there for the first time, not knowing how they will 
> do. But I'm a little scared by some of the comments to think I might 
> get run over by somebody or get kicked out of of place in the vet 
> line, etc. Maybe there should be different vets for the LD'ers? 
> Someone PLEASE reassure me that this is still a nice sport with nice 
> people and I'll have a good time. I really want to ride again.
> 
> Jackie (new/oldbie in California)
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Sullivan 
>   To: steph@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 1:46 PM
>   Subject: Re: [RC] LD again
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Steph Teeter" <steph@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   > Here's my opinion on LD as a BOD member - (but, however) it's 
> not a simple
>   > issue.
>   > There is a whole section of rules pertaining to LD only.  And 
> there is a
>   > section/rule which states that there is a minimum completion 
> time.  This
>   > means the stopwatch matters and that Limited Distance, same as 
> for
>   > Endurance, is therefore a race.  The only thing differing the 
> two is the
>   > "finish line", which is actually a finish line for endurance, 
> and is
>   meeting
>   > the pulse criteria of 60 for Limited Distance.
> 
>   I have a question regarding LD rides.  Is the following ethical?   
> Scenario:
>   all vet checks and vets in camp.   A Question was asked at ride 
> meeting if
>   50's would be given priority over 25 in the vet line?  Answer from 
> head vet
>   goes something like, only Best condition horses judging will be 
> given
>   priority....rest should be no problem as all vets are in 
> camp...implication
>   is that 50's will NOT be given priority to 25's in line....as 
> there were
>   pleanty of vets.
> 
>   later on, 25 miler going for final vet check after completion 
> (first ride,
>   newbie with green horse who is antsy).  In line for vet check with 
> one horse
>   in front of her.....then a whole group of 50;s come up ( not front 
> runners,
>   OR end of pack, in other words, then had pleanty of time to vet 
> through and
>   finish last loop).  A person who is related to ride managment 
> steps in and
>   inserts all these 50;s in line ahead of about 6 people who have 
> been waiting
>   to vet for completion....then ANOTHER group of 50;s ride up and 
> THEY bump
>   the LD-ers; at his direction.   This goes on at least a half 
> hour....
>   finishers are waiting in hot sun with impatient and tired 
> horses.....what do
>   you do in a situation like this?
> 
>   "Person" who gave priority to 50's claimed no knowledge that 25's 
> were not
>   to be bumped, claimed ride managment told him to do this.....when 
> all ride
>   managment and helpers were at original ride meeting where it was 
> said 50's
>   were NOT to be given priority.....
> 
>   Needless to say, newbie to sport was NOT impressed!  Got the 
> distinct
>   impression that 25's were nobodies and 50's could break the 
> rules....
> 
>   Any comments?
> 
>   Karen (personally, as someone who rides LD  and some 50's), I 
> would never
>   think I was more special than an LD-er, when I was on a 50 and 
> push in front
>   of them in line!  Their horses are as important as mine, and MAY 
> be
>   stressed.....
> 
> 
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