Ridecamp: RE: [RC] Syvlia's concern

Alison -nice post - and very true. Probably a good way to end this 'discussion'. Ok? Everything has pretty much been said.

 

Steph

-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Alison Farrin
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 7:33 PM
To: Dbeverly4@xxxxxxx
Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [RC] Syvlia's concern

Well, truth be told, 6 or 8 of us did get accidently booted while Karen was gone.

 

I think the proper avenue is still the AERC office.  If you wrote to them and they replied that the official results reported by the ride manager for New Cuyama show Karen as not starting and then you verified with the Ride Manager that those results are corect as he sees them, then you have a beef.  Until then, all you have is a paperwork error.

 

I work in a very paperwork intensive business and I'll tell you right up front that the intentional deceit to fumble fingers on the keyboard ratio is about 1 to 500, if not higher.  I constantly marvel that clients can call me, positive that their employer is engaged in a conspiracy with the plan recordkkeeper to deny them the money that is rightfully theirs.  Usually, they haven't read the damn instructions and are making mountains out of molehills. And generally, the clients that start with this attitude get laughed at, alot.  Those that call with a reasonable question to the proper person get courteous and complete answers.  I have found the same to be true with the AERC office.

 

So, have you asked the right people the proper question?  Until you have facts, you don't HAVE an issue.  Come back with facts and we'll listen with open minds.

 

Alison A. Farrin
Innovative Pension
Innovative Retirement Services
858-748-6500 x 107
alison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dbeverly4@xxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 5:30 PM
To: kmathews@xxxxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RC] Syvlia's Whining -- was what do you think

In a message dated 6/17/2002 5:25:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, kmathews@xxxxxxxx writes:

Karen
answered your questions a month ago and btw have you called the Duck
with your questions yet?  No, you just want to make trouble here.

Yes, she answered my questions by calling me names and booting me off of "her" list (which I know she's denying -- that too is someone else's fault).  Yes, actually I did try to contact the RM, I e-mailed him.  Haven't heard back yet, but I know he was busy at the most recent ride so that is understandable.  I can see that Mt. Carmel will be fixed since it would be pretty hard to avoid doing that at this point.  What about New Cuyama?  Those results are official and they don't show Karen as starting.  I haven't heard an answer to that one yet.

It would definitely have been much easier and more peaceful not to bring up this issue.  Sorry if you are offended.

Sylvia