[Fwd: RC: Reply to rearing]

[Jim Holland <lanconn@tds.net>]

Jim Holland wrote:
> 
> Lif..
> 
> You missed the whole point.  If you will notice young horses or
> stallions "playing", the "attack" on the front legs is part of their
> "decide who is boss" routine.  Sorry you don't agree with this...but it
> is not "cruel"....just part of "horsespeak". I'm not "abusing" the
> horse, but simply trying to tell him "that's not an option".  Rearing or
> invading my space is dangerous...and I wil not tolerate that.  I don't
> know what "technique" you use for teaching trailer loading, but I will
> put my technique against yours anytime.  How do you teach a horse to
> load? I'm not being critical...just interested....and you would NEVER
> get my dressage whip from my hand! <grin> My guys love me anyway!
> 
> Jim an Sun of Dimanche
> 
> Lif Strand wrote:
> >
> > At 06:08 PM 6/26/01, Jim wrote:
> > >I have had numerous horses rear when teaching trailer loading. They will
> > >rear to avoid the "go forward" into the trailer.  When that happens, you
> > >go with them and just tear up their front legs below the knee with the
> > >dressage whip.
> >
> > Whooee, Jim.  Do that in front of me and I'll probably launch myself at
> > you, rip the whip out of your hand, throw you down on the ground and have
> > the horse sit on you for three beers worth of time.  And maybe when it gets
> > off of you, I'll look the other way if it steps on your foot.
> >
> > Besides the fact that I don't believe whipping solves anything in any
> > *humane* manner, I can't exactly see how whipping a horse on the front legs
> > would  1) encourage it to go forward or 2) discourage it from rearing to
> > escape the pain.  All I see it as is gratuitous punishment which doesn't
> > even acknowledge that the horse has got some *issue* with loading, or that
> > the guilty party is actually the human who didn't properly trailer train
> > the horse in the first place.
> >
> > Lif Strand
> > Quemado NM  USA
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Richard T. "Jim" Holland                 Phone:  (706) 258-2830
LANCONN, Inc.                            FAX:    (706) 632-1271
Three Creeks Farm			 INTERNET:  lanconn@tds.net
175 Hells Hollow Drive                   
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