Re: RC: Re: non-member fees

["Nancy Mitts" <mitts_n@hotmail.com>]

As a ride manager, my philosophy is that I don't need riders that want to 
cheat me/AERC/ & the other riders who pay out of $10. If they lie, cheat & 
steal entry money, they'll lie & cheat on trail too. More than likely be the 
first to file protests, & gripe if hung with a new rope.<BG> Remember, 
they're the ones giving you the heart attack, not AERC. They're the ones not 
showing respect for the hard work ride managers do to put on rides.
I would be for publishing a list of riders who don't pay their fees, so 
other managers will know not to welcome them at rides to cause grief. 
UNfortunatley the AERC News is not timely enough to be effective. It could 
also hurt the people who do settle up.
The problem with AERC collecting the money is, it's the ride manager who has 
the info, since it's non-members we're talking about.
I have a question for those who are having problems. Do you advertise your 
fee, then add on the $10 to people who don't have cards? In our area, they 
usually advertise the ride fee incuding the $10, then take it off when you 
present your card. That way people aren't "surprised" with that higher fee.
Nancy Mitts

>From: "jsalas" <jsalas@tampabay.rr.com>
>To: "ridecamp" <ridecamp@endurance.net>, "Bob Morris" <bobmorris@rmci.net>
>Subject: RC:  Re: non-member fees
>Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:08:04 -0400
>
>The club has no choice but to charge. The county requires insurance and 
>maintenance in order for us to ride there. If the county maintained the 
>property we would not have a place to ride. Believe me when I say there 
>were many times when we, the board, put in our own money to mow and pay 
>insurance just to keep the trails because we couldn't convince enough 
>people to join.
>It is AERC's choice to keep track of non-member rides and to charge the $10 
>non-member fee. They also charge a research fee if someone decides to join 
>to get their past mileage to count. Isn't that right? So yes, I do know 
>that is a considerable amount of money. That is why I say, let the office 
>deal with it. Not RM. Not everyone who puts on a ride will be able to 
>insist on the fees or  UTD cards.  Let's be realistic. While some of us 
>love to argue it is easier for others to let people slide than to argue 
>with them while you have 20 people standing in line. And if after having 
>spent 6 months preparing for a ride as RM and spending lots and lots of 
>money to put on a ride,  and then listening to people gripe after the ride, 
>(there is always a few) I certainly would not expect a bill from the AERC 
>office telling me I owed them anything. Why can't they call the riders 
>themselves and collect the money? If the riders are the soul of AERC then 
>ride managers make up  the heart that keeps the blood flowing. why can't it 
>be a little bit easier for them?? Why give them a heart attack? Lisa Salas, 
>The odd Farm
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Bob Morris
>   To: jsalas
>   Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 10:03 AM
>   Subject: RE: non-member fees
>

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