The point is being missed! This is not just an AERC ride..it is
the AERC National Championship Event. Who sponsors a regular AERC ride is
the business of the ride manager (and the UAE is paying for FEI at several AERC
rides this year) but we are not talking about any regular AERC ride. We
are talking about our NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP EVENTS. This event has had
phenomenal growth in its two years of existence..37 starters the first year and
96 the second....and it looks like we may double the numbers again this
year. It is not for everyone, but it has captured the imagination of many
AERC Members because it is our National Championship with an
opportunity to compete in a very unique event against only their own weight
division. As to the Fruth's and Kanavy's...their offer was made with no
strings attached....they will pay for any balance of FEI related costs that the
ride can't pay for via Sponsorships from our own AERC SPONSORS (who
have the first right to participate as Sponsors of this great event).
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:43:48 EST
CMKSAGEHIL@aol.com writes:
> Randy,
I'd say your facts are correct here, but I still fail to see
> how what
you've said has any bearing on why AERC turned down the
> offer of UAE
money for an FEI division at an AERC ride! CERTAINLY
> there is an
"agenda" here--and I think you've pretty well listed the
> reasons the
UAE would have to make such an offer. They are
> businessmen, and
if they were simply throwing the money down a rat
> hole, they would earn
a lot less respect from me! But let's face
> it--EVERYONE who
sponsors or donates or advertises has an "agenda"
> of some sort--a
product to sell, a goal to further, or whatever.
> I'm sure
Sundowner trailers didn't just pick endurance out of a hat
> as something
to support--heck, no, they make a product that happens
> to suit the
needs of what we do, and it is in their best interest to
> see that as
many people as possible participate in our sport and
> hence have a need
for their sort of product--and to top it off, by
> sponsoring, they gain
name recognition among our members. !
> Good business, pure and
simple.
> And you can't tell me that the "infomercial" issue
recently over RD
> Five Star (or his owner's donations to AERC) would
have come up if
> his owner did not wish to try to market to endurance
riders. Every
> company or individual who sponsors anything in our
sport either has
> a product to sell (saddles, tack, clothes, horses,
whatever) or has
> a goal in mind, such as keeping a particular sort of
competition
> alive within our sport. Jerry Fruth and Larry Kanavy
didn't just
> step into the breach here because they get a kick out of
writing
> checks--heck, no--they want to further a particular aspect of
> competition because they are involved as competitors! (Gee,
sounds
> kinda like why the UAE money was offered, doesn't it??)
>
> The UAE, just as you said, wants to raise the profile of
> international endurance riding, and to do so requires participation
> of countries such as ours with established programs, just as you
> said. So what makes more sense than to help out by sponsoring FEI
> divisions at high-profile rides? Sounds like old-fashioned good
> business and free enterprise to me. As an American, those are
> values I believe in--but I'd be a fool to think that Americans have
> an exclusive on the concept...
>
> Heidi
>
>
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>
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> Believe it or not, I don't think
the UAE is the evil enemy
> of=20 endurance...but there is an
agenda to everything that is
> being done. T= he=20 following
is the reasoning behind all thathas
> occurred (IMHO):
1)The UAE wants to be a major player in the
> sport of endurance
ri= ding=20 and they have a huge competitive
> ego (not
necessarily bad nor limited to the= =20 Middle East
>
culture). 2) Unlike the Americans, they do not have a longtradition
> o= f=20 endurance riding nor along standing and world
respected
> endurance=20 organization like the AERC. 3) To
facilitate their
> desire to be a major player in the sport,=20=
they=20 needed a
> vehicle to further their goals..thatvehicle
became the=20 FEI 4)
> The FEI was already established but
was in a poor financial st=
> ate=20 thus the UAEoffered to
become the unofficial sponsor of
> FEI....the off= er=20 was
accepted. 5) The close ties with the
> FEI!
> gave
immediate legitimacy to UA
> E=20 endurance 6) However,
without the full participation of the
> Americans and=20
Australians in FEI, there still remains a great
> void in being able to
claim=20 superiority in world endurance
> competition. The glory of
winning is=20 lessened when you have not
> beaten the very best of
the Americans (and=20 Australians). 7)
> Because of the
extreme cost to manage an FEI ride, and the gen=
> eral=20
lack of interest of the AERC Membershipto participate in
>
international= =20 competition, there are very few FEI rides in
> the US. 8) I am guessing now, but probably at the urging
ofsome=20
> Americans employed by the UAE endurance entities, the
UAE has
> offered fundin= g to=20 various AERC Ride Managers
to put on FEI
> sanctioned rides. (BTW, They=20= have=20 also
funded entire
> national endurance organizations in smaller and
strugglin= g=20
> countries, which is not such a bad thing
because it helps grow the
> sport.)</= DIV> 9) #8 above
is based on what happened last year
> when !
> we saw
full=20= page=20 color
> ads in the Endurance News touting
the virtues of international=20
> riding...those ads were placed at
the urging of some Americans
> employed by t= he=20
Sheiks...so I think this is a long term plan
> that has been put in
action.</D= IV> 10) In addition to all of the
> above,
the UAE has developed a "Wor= ld=20 Endurance Ranking
>
System" that purportedly ranks the best horses and riders=20= in=20
> the World, by performance in FEI sanctioned rides. This system
> lacks t= rue=20 validity without the full participation of
the
> very best of the American hor= ses=20 and riders (and
> Australians). There are substantial financial awards t=
o=20 those
> who are ranked in the upper levels of this system.
Because the=20
> Americans were still not getting involved in large
numbers, last
> year the UA= E=20 upped the financial rewards
to very high levels.
> That increase in payo= ut=20 still did
not attract the numbers of
> Americans needed to make the system=20
legitimate. 11) We are now
> a!
> t the real reason the UAE
is off
> ering money to fu= nd=20 FEI rides in the United
States...They
> must have more American participation=20=
in=20 FEI to further
> their personal goals. It is in their best
interes= t to=20 force
> feed the growth of FEI and
international competition. If that ta=
> kes=20 the funding
or sponsoring of FEI rides in AERC, then that is
> a very small pr=
ice=20 for them to pay. I don't believe I have
>
said the growth of FEI is bad, in fact it may be= a=20 good
> thing, but the hands on relationship of a major player in crea=
> ting=20 and paying for the development of FEI lends itself to a
> very real "conflict=20= of=20 interest" situation. FEI
admittedly
> has some conflict of interest=20 problemsin their
relationship with
> the UAE. Interestingly,= I=20
received a private e'mail from a
> middle east endurance leader who said
the t= erm,=20 "conflict of
> interest" does not exist in the
Arabic language and=20
> culture...soit may very well be that the
UAE does not consider
> anythi!
> n= g=20 they do in
funding, pa
> yments, etc. as bordering on undue influence or=20
conflict of
> interest. Cultures do have differences and I am well
aware= of=20
> the differences.
Nowhere in this long diatribe have I said there
> is any
occurrence= of=20 intentional wrongdoing...I really don't
> think there is. But, we should= be=20 very careful in
both our
> approach to these offers and to our acceptance of=20
monies. We
> should also remember that the UAE form of endurance=20
isbased on a
> very long flat track racing style format with=20
competitors
> accompanied by support crews in 4 wheel drive vehicles
going str=
> ide=20 for stride with their riders throughout
the event. This is
> contrary to= the=20 AERC style of
endurance where we consider our
> first and foremost competition=
=20 "the trail". Randy Eiland
>
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