Re: RE: RE: Cutoff Times

["Bo Parrish" <lindap@lcc.net>]

So, Bob, whatever happened to the rule that had "a rate of 4.167 mph"
somewhere in it way back when (I can't remember the year that I last saw
this in the rule book). I think it used to be listed in Rule 5.

Linda Parrish
Kennard, TX


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Morris <bobmorris@rmci.net>
To: McGraw, George <gmcgraw@amtech.com>; ridecamp@endurance.net
<ridecamp@endurance.net>
Date: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 2:31 PM
Subject: RC: RE: RE: Cutoff Times


>Since the criteria for completion is based on an average speed of 4.1666
mph
>then any cutoff times should be based on the same rationale. Thus the
>concept of a speed of 5 mph for cutoff at a vet check could be considered
as
>erroneous. Consider a vet check (hypothetical only for example)at 40 miles
>this means you must be there in 8 hours leaving 4 hours for the last ten
>miles. This is a rate of 2.5 mph. If a rider wants to do the ride at a rate
>of 4mph and arrive at the vet check in ten hours that is the riders
>prerogative if they are going to complete. Then they just up the speed to
>5mph and complete in the required 12 hours (for a 50)
>
>Using George's reading of the rule 6 the Ride management could have set a
>time limit of six hours at the 40 mile point (6.66mph not unreasonable)and
>you would then have six hours to complete the last ten miles.
>
>No, there must be some sensible, definitive reasoning if there are to be
>cutoff times applied. If not, then we get into the realm of some of the FEI
>rides (18 hrs for 100 miles) and lose the concept of our traditional
>endurance riding.
>
>I
>Bob
>-----Original Message-----
>From: McGraw, George [mailto:gmcgraw@amtech.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 11:57 AM
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: RC: RE: Cutoff Times
>
>
>Look at rule 6 it allows ride management to set other rules as the ride
>requires
>6. Completion requires meeting all of the following criteria:
> a. All riders and mounts must be present and accounted for at the
>start of the ride.
> b. Properly entered in the ride.
> c. Obeying all the rules.
> d. Following the prescribed course, and doing multiple loops in the
>correct order.
> e. Passing all control points.
> f. Passing vet check requirements
> g. Finishing within the prescribed maximum tine.
> h. Not being disqualified.
> i. Meeting criteria at post-finish-line check.
> j. Meeting any other criteria prescribed by ride management
>
>
>George McGraw
>Ride Manager Frigid Digit
>Office 972 733-6402
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: guest@endurance.net [SMTP:guest@endurance.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 12:42 PM
>> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>> Subject: RC:  Cutoff Times
>>
>> k s swigart katswig@earthlink.net
>>
>> Just curious.
>>
>> Where in the AERC rules does it say that rides are a) allowed to have
>> cut-off times and b) what are the requirements associated with them?
>>
>> kat
>> Orange County, Calif.
>>
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