Re: Re: RE: trees

["Sandy Bolinger" <bolinger@bigsky.net>]

Ok---I'm done talking about the fires(for today!)  Just one other point
here....before you start pointing fingers at who or what is to blame for
these fires...do your homework---these are not typical fires---these are not
the ones that you study about in school---come out here and talk to some of
these hard-cores who have been fighting fires for decades...they live and
breath fires...throw away the books...and everything you might have read or
heard about forest fires...talk to the real EXPERTS...it's the difference
between someone who has ridden thousands of miles of endurance speaking out
on the subject---and someone who has never been out there on the
trails---I'd rather get my information from the one who has "been there"

----- Original Message -----
From: Sandy Bolinger <bolinger@bigsky.net>
To: <Tivers@aol.com>; <RDCARRIE@aol.com>; <BMcCrary27@aol.com>;
<bobmorris@rmci.net>
Cc: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 6:19 AM
Subject: RC: Re: RE: trees


> if you are speaking of the fires here in Montana, you are dead wrong...
> these fires were NOT preventable , and they are barely containable....even
> with every and all recourses known to man....on our fire alone we have 35
> dozers, 7 excavators, 12 skijons, 35 water trucks, 15 helicopers, slurry
> drop planes, 2,000 fire fighters, 28 fire engines, 15 saw crews, etc etc
> etc....they're barely hanging on to it...the goal being just to keep it
> somewhat contained...or at least moving away from homes...until the snows
> come...NOTHING could have prevented these fires...except more moisture to
> begin with...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Tivers@aol.com>
> To: <RDCARRIE@aol.com>; <BMcCrary27@aol.com>; <bobmorris@rmci.net>
> Cc: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:20 PM
> Subject: RC: RE: trees
>
>
> > In a message dated 8/28/00 8:49:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> RDCARRIE@aol.com
> > writes:
> >
> > << Umm, as a wildlife biologist involved directly with forest managemen,
 I
> > have
> >  to disagree here.  Some species of wildlife NEED the dense, heavily
> forested
> >  habitats you mention.  Others, as you correctly state, do not thrive in
> it.
> >  Deer are an example - they need early successional (younger, more open)
> >  habitat to fine the types of browse they need.  There are plenty of
> insects
> >  in deep forest, and plenty of birds using them.  Some species that come
> to
> >  mind are Varied Thrushes and Winter Wrens in the northwest...I could
name
> >  more.  What about the famous (infamous?) Spotted Owl?
> >   >>
> >
> >
> > Well, we've just lost a few hundred thousand  acres to preventable, or
at
> > least containable,  forest fires. As a "wildlife biologist involved
> directly
> > with forest management", what's your excuse? Saving 75 trees for the
> spotted
> > owl took all your time? Confiscating another million acres for the
federal
> > government took all your fire control  resources?
> >
> > Perhaps it's time we asked for the same accountability from wildlife
> > biologists that we're beginning to ask of other federal payrollees. Talk
> is
> > real cheap these days. Action, intelligent action, is a rarity.
> >
> > ti
> >
> >
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