Re: Re: Re: Accident at ride this weekend in Montana...???

["GESA BRINKS" <gesaeqfx@pe.net>]

I responded to the post before the fact that they were 50 milers came out.
I appologize for ranking on the riders thinking  that they were LDs.  I have
seen LDs run their horses into the ground at a finish, and for what??  That
is the point I was getting at.  "For what?"  Since it wasnt LDs the picture
changes a little bit.  Being reckless is still the issue for me.   Again, Im
sorry for stomping on the toes of the LD riders.         gesa n clovis
-----Original Message-----
From: Maggie Mieske <mmieske@netonecom.net>
To: GESA BRINKS <gesaeqfx@pe.net>; DVeritas@aol.com <DVeritas@aol.com>;
steenhof@cyberhighway.net <steenhof@cyberhighway.net>
Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Accident at ride this weekend in Montana...???


>It has been stated several times that it was NOT LD riders racing in.  They
>were FIFTY milers.  And even if they were LD riders, racing in is not
>forbidden.  Frowned on perhaps, but not against the rules.  Man, I hate it
>when the LD riders get bashed all the time!
>Maggie
>Michigan
>
>----------
>> From: GESA BRINKS <gesaeqfx@pe.net>
>> To: DVeritas@aol.com; steenhof@cyberhighway.net
>> Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
>> Subject: RC:  Re: Re: Accident at ride this weekend in Montana...???
>> Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 1:27 AM
>>
>> Frank,  You brought up a few psuedorealistic points.  First off, you are
>> right,  what in the heck were 25 milers doing racing in anyway?  In PS
>> region LD is not a race.  Im pretty sure LD is viewed that way throughout
>> all of the regions.  Secondly you stated that the riders should have been
>> able to stop their horses, that the riders needed to train their horses
>> better.    I showed horses for years.  I showed in reining too.  I also
>> galloped horses for a training track.  One of the stallions that I
>galloped
>> had been a reining horse.  When a horse is in a controlled environment ,
>ie.
>> an arena,  there is no other horse choosing him off and racing against
>him.
>> The stallion I rode was a winner in reining, yet when I galloped him in
>> company, especially when we were breezing them,  there was no way in hell
>I
>> could bring him to an abrupt stop.   The horses also, get caught up in
>the
>> heat of the competition.  To be pulled to a complete stop is not an easy
>> thing  for that horse to do.  Those horses that were involved in that
>awful
>> accident may have in fact been extremely well trained.  The riders
>"maybe"
>> were trying to rein them in.   The riders used bad judgement
>> and unfortunately someone had to suffer for it.  I think we can bet that
>> these two riders have learned a huge lesson.   It still was an accident.
>>                   gesa n clovis
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DVeritas@aol.com <DVeritas@aol.com>
>> To: steenhof@cyberhighway.net <steenhof@cyberhighway.net>
>> Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net <ridecamp@endurance.net>
>> Date: Monday, September 20, 1999 5:16 PM
>> Subject: RC: Re: Accident at ride this weekend in Montana...???
>>
>>
>> >In a message dated 20-Sep-99 17:13:39 Mountain Daylight Time,
>> >steenhof@cyberhighway.net writes:
>> >
>> >>  They were
>> >>  racing to the finish and it was difficult for them to stop their
>horses,
>> >>  going full speed.
>> >
>> >Terribly unfortunate accident.
>> >But, I don't care if there was an unexpected "obstacle", those riders
>> should
>> >have MUCH better control of their horses in that particular environment.
>> >WHOA from a gallop is no different than having the ability to lift one's
>> foot
>> >from the accelerator to the brake pedal.  It must be taught and
>retained.
>> >    Or maybe next time the rider will be the one to pay the price for
>that
>> >particular lesson unlearned.
>> >    We all jump up on our soapboxes and talk about HELMETS (and should),
>> but
>> >some of us forget the basic training required to make horses safe to be
>> >around and to make the endurance environment safe for the horses to be
>> around
>> >as well.
>> >    Racing to the finish, even IF for first place, should only be
>attempted
>> >by trained riders, on trained horses.
>> >    The damn sport is inherently dangerous enough as it is.
>> >
>> >Frank.
>> >
>> >
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