At 10:39 AM 10/16/97 -0400, Trishmare@aol.com wrote:
>Dear ridecampers, do to the volume of mail I've received on this topic I'm
>sending this post to the group, rather than individulally.
> My research into vaccines began 10 years ago, when I was pregnant and
>under the care of a holistically oriented lay mid-wife. The basic gist of
>what I've discovered is this:
> Vaccines stress the immune system. It is a healthy immune system, NOT a
>lack of germs in the environment, which prevents disease. There are ALWAYS
>germs in the environment. Vaccines are an unnatural stess to the immune
>system. The method in which the virus/bacterium get into the body in
>vaccinations is not dublicated anywhere in nature. A pathogens usual methods
>of entry--the natural methods--set off alarm bells in the body, and the
>immune system has time to "rev up" as it were. Think of two enemy armies at
>war--the "natural" method of fighting is to march toward each other until
>within fireing range, or to attempt to sneak up on the enemy. IN either
>case, marching toward one another or knowing the enemy will sneak up on you
>if he is able, you are put into a state of being "on guard." You keep your
>gun oiled, your senses alert--ready to fire at the first sign of the enemy.
> But suppose you do not know the enemy is anywhere near. Your at rest,
>playing cards, guns unloaded etc.--suppose into such an "at rest" camp, an
>invading army suddenly got "beamed." The kind of chaos you can imagine in
>such a camp is the same sort of chaos the body is thrown into with injected
>vaccines. Rather than confronting an immune system which is reved up an on
>the alert, the pathogens face an immune system which is suddenly and
>desperately trying to play "catch up" in face of a threat which set off no
>alarms on its approach.
> We are told the danger is not much--the viruses used are killed and/or
>weakend. But these "altered" viruses have their own unique dangers. The
>body often does not percieve them as a threat, and instead of responding to
>them ACUTELY the body gives a half-hearted CHRONIC response. (an "acute"
>response is a sudden and violent reaction to something, a "chronic" response
>is usually much less violent, but ever on-going.)
> For example, if you get a flu shot as child (or any other vaccine you
>care to name), you may never get a case of full blown flu--and everyone
>thinks, hey the flu vaccine worked! But you know, in the future you have
>many, many days where you feel "off" or "not well." You get a lot of colds,
>and just think you're whole life, "well, I'm just really susceptible to
>colds"--or you develop adult onset asthma, or maybe MS, or you develop some
>sort of immune system related disease such as lupus, or cancer--what has
>happened is that your body did not respond vigourously and acutely to the
>altered flu germs--they were killed or weakend, they came in by a route the
>body could not recognize as an invasion, they set off no alarm bells which
>would have triggered the immune system into a state of high alert. Instead,
>the body sets up a late and weak counter-offense to a threat it does not
>fully recognize--and sort of half-heartedly fights the flu CONTINUOUSLY from
>then on. Not enough of a battle to cause symptoms, not even enough that you
>are much aware of it (except on those days when you tire easily, or feel
>"off," or sort of feel like you're "coming down with something" which never
>fully manifests). The immune system, marvelous wonder of nature that it is,
>can nevertheless only fight a battle on so many fronts at once--if it is
>constantly fighting low grade flu, anytime it is stressed with more germs,
>exhaustion, whatever, it has that much less energy to respond. The more
>things we are fighting at any one time, the more likely we are to get sick.
> (Multiple shots, anyone?)
> Look at the Gulf War bets--those poor people received every shot in the
>book, all at once, and then were thrown into a totally foreign environment
>under high stress conditions. Now, years later, military hospitals are
>choked with people suffering mysterious, hard to treat, and hard to diagnose
>Gulf War Syndrome! Doctors say they are stumped, for the range of symptoms
>experienced by the vets seem to cover all diseases! I wonder why! (As
>stated, these people got every shot in the book, nearly--shot s which covered
>all diseases for which there was a shot available--). Holistic practitioners
>PREDICTED this outcome--they were ignored.
> Also, an immune system stressed in this fasion may begin, after a time,
>to respond to the entire body in a chronic fasion. When tthis happens, the
>immune system attacks the body itself, as a foreign invader--we call it
>auto-immune disease. Auto-immune diseases have just skyrocketed in the years
>since mass innoculations became the norm. So has adult onset asthma, another
>auto-immune response. So has childhood allergies and asthma.
> Not only in humans--every species of animal which is the "beneficiary"
>of mass innoculations, dogs, cats, livestock,--has seen an unprecidented rise
>in mysterious auto-immune diseases since the advent of vaccines. Even many
>"traditional" veterinarians report that they see a link between vaccinations
>and diseases such as EPM, feline lukiemia, canine allergies etc.
> One out of every 10 cats develop skin cancer at the point of
>vaccination--and in response to this veterinarians are suggesting cats should
>not receive thier shots at the usual point of injection--between the shoulder
>blades--as the many nerves there make removal of the skin tumors difficult.
> Hmmm, maybe the cat ought not receive the shots at all, eh?
> All of this is only the tip of the iceberg, as far as the information I
>have on vaccines and immune malfunction. I hope the post is helpful to those
>of you who wrote requesting additional discussion--sorry I could not respond
>to everyone individually--I'd be here for two-weeks. But please feel free to
>e-mail privately if you've more questions, if I get too many requests, I'll
>post to ridecamp as long as that is OK with Steph--(myself, I do feel the
>health of our horses is a relevant topic, but that is only my opinion--)
>
>Trish & "pretty, & non-vaccinated, David"
>
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Julie R.Coats, A.H.T.
Cardiac Research Technician
NCSU College of Veterinary Medicine