I like John Lyons idea on training ideas 1.)The horse can't get hurt. 2.) you can't get hurt. 3.) the horse is calmer at the end than at the beginning.--- He teaches to tie, by getting a long rope (or lunge line). Has the horse learn to give to pressure and turn towards him when he kisses.(this can be done on a halter, for a halter broke horse or a round pen for an unbroke horse) {the newer methods are in his more recent publications , he has streamlined it some} Then he walks all around the horse , having the horse give to pressure and turning in the direction of the pull, Then he loops it around a post) he realised all he was a "movable post". he has the horse give towards the post as he applies pressure, from many directions. Eventually he gets to the "tieing' part. (a little more detailed than this in his book and tapes, but excellent for a sensitive horse.) Basically he says figure out your goal. Break it down into many small steps and work towards it. Never start at the goal. (he used to do the cowboy make and break, when he first started, but then he started to use those 3 rules to evaluate and work on his training horses, he'll tell you he made lots of mistakes, and did dangerous stuff but has gradually learned these principles. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alison Farrin Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 4:20 PM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] Training horses to calm down... Ok, I just broke a 9 yr old and a 10 yr old that had never learned to tie with this method...... If you have a bungie lead, do use it. Bungie to the tie post, other end THROUGH the halter ring or loop. Leave about a foot of slack. Attach another 10' lead to the end of the first lead. Take this lead between the front legs, over the back and back thru the front legs on the other side. Tie the end to the first lead. Their head is never restrained with this method. It can always move forward and back and side to side. This takes most of the danger of damaging vertebrae away. Now, when the horse sets back, the pressure is on his shoulders. When they set back, its the equivalent of heels in his sides asking him to move forward. The real idiot of the two above set back 3 times and decided whoever was pushing him from behind wouldn't give up and there just wasn't any point to trying more. Now he gives the moment he hits the end of the line. Now all he needs is several weeks of days tied to the trailer so he will stand STILL. I like Tammy's idea and will start doing that with him whenever I have another horse out. Alison A. Farrin Innovative Pension Innovative Retirement Services 858-748-6500 x 107 alison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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