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I have trailered horses tens of thousands of miles with no special consideration for "newbies" vs. "old campaigners". I offer water, most won't drink the first day. I hardly ever off-load except at night. I feed NO grain and free choice hay, grass when they off-load (if available). I have used a straight-load 2 horse, a stock trailer and now use a slant-load. I have NEVER had a problem as a result. Those who knew me when I competed heavily, know I did fairly well. I must be doing something right (or maybe I'm just plain lucky?). In any case, I often trailered my horses..to train, to compete, to play.... what's the secret? I sure don't know. The horses that went to Dubai in 1998 had problems and they were seasoned campaigners and travelers.... Sure wish we could get some money for research at rides.... Teddy Rides 2 Far wrote: > >I had a tie-up at VC 1 > > We did have a 13+ hour trailer ride, no off-loading. Horse doesn't > >take care of himself in transit > > Why no off-loading? It's 5 hours for me, but I got him out and walked > him 15 min. after 3 hours on the road. He didn't drink (seldom does > during transit) but he ate some grass & *clover* >g< He snorts a LOT when > he's out walking, and usually pees. > > The "Biltmore Syndrome" as I understood it wasn't so much a case of tying > up as it was a massive muscle cramp. The most classic case I saw was a > horse at about the 80 mile mark year before last. He was ahead of me, > had just vetted through and walked up the steep hill behind the arena to > get in some shade. Horse looked fine one minute, then just went to the > ground. As I understood it (could be all wrong) it wasn't a tie up, they > just hit them with fluids (wonder if it was the Potassium depletion > thing?) and the next thing you knew they looked as good as new. The vets > felt that the hike up the long hill to the arena, then the STEEP climb up > to the shade where everyone crewed contributed. This year when they > moved the vet check down to the flat they still had some tie ups, but > they were true tying up episodes, not the Biltmore Syndrome. Hopefully > they'll let us leave the vet check down in the field and they'll start > referring to that phenomenon as the "Biltmore Indoor Arena Vet Check > Syndrome" > > I've known 2 horses that got something that sounded like this Alsike > Clove Poisoning they're talking about. They were on a huge farm, and > suddenly had incredibly high liver enzymes and all their pink skin looked > like you'd thrown acid on them. They were both blanket Appaloosas and > the entire white area of the blanket cracked up like the desert floor and > big squares of skin with hair on it peeled off. If these horses at > Biltmore supposedly had trouble from the clover, would they possibly at > least exhibit some sunburn type peeling? > > When your horse tied up at Biltmore, did you ride the day before the > race? I've never tied Kaboot up, but I think I did another horse > once...he just kind of stiffened up in one hip after his Friday before > the ride exercise and we didn't start him the next day. Later he had a > couple of full blown tie-ups with the owner riding him. (By the way, the > same horse came in 3rd in the 50 at Biltmore) When I messed that horse > up I had fed him full grain, then hauled him 5 1/2 hours to War Eagle > without unloading. I did walk him 15 min. before trotting that Friday > before the ride, but then we went straight into FAST trotting. > > Now I cut grain when I haul, unload after 3 hours or so, and on the > Friday ride I walk 15 min. then mix up slow trotting/ walking/ some fast > trotting, more walking. I've just got this ultra-paranoid vision of lots > of sediment in his bloodstream that I have to carefully jar loose and > flush away gradually. I've had no more problems since doing this, but > it's been mostly Kaboot that I've done it with and he just may not be > prone. I know it's the pits. Sorry it happened to ya. > > Angie > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! 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