Re: Getting PUlled -- It's a Privacy Issue

["Sandy Bolinger" <bolinger@bigsky.net>]

If somebody really wants your ride history---and it's only available to AERC
members...then that person who REALLY wants to know everything...whether its
so that he can empty our your house while your gone, or fire you from your
job as an accountant because you got pulled from two rides last year...all
that person has to do is join aerc....which is simple and cheap considering
the trade off(all your furniture)

----- Original Message -----
From: DreamWeaver <karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us>
To: Lif Strand <fasterhorses@gilanet.com>; Ridecamp <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 12:01 PM
Subject: RC: Getting PUlled -- It's a Privacy Issue


> At 10:25 AM 04/29/2000 -0600, Lif Strand wrote:
> >1)   If I had a prospective or actual employer who spent that much energy
> >looking into my personal life, it would be a favor to me to have them
> >reject me as an employee.
>
> Guess what Lif.  This happens a lot.  Nowdays, you can't even get a job
> with most employers without taking a drug test.   A lot of people probably
> don't even know about the background checking that goes on, and some
people
> just don't care because they already have jobs, or are retired so it
> doesn't apply to them.
>
> >2)  If anyone gets busted for lying about where they were on a weekend,
> >that's not the fault of publishing ride results, now is it.
>
> That's why a lot of employers now let people take 'personal time', rather
> than sick leave -- so if you need a day off you can take it and don't have
> to feign an illness.  But not everybody is so lucky to have such a
flexible
> employer.
>
> >3)  If clients who haven't been told what you're doing are smart enough
to
> >somehow track you down at an endurance ride, they're smart enough to
track
> >you down anywhere.  It's not like the EN is distributed like Time
Magazine
> >or TV Guide, available at every grocery & convenience store counter.  Any
> >client who would spend that much energy to track someone down is too
scary
> >to do work for.
>
> We aren't talking about Endurance News, Lif.  We are talking about
somebody
> doing a search on the internet and finding a persons entire ride
> history.  If you are not an endurance rider, EN can be hard to find.
>
> And while you might find a nosy employer too scary to work for, not
> everybody has a choice or perhaps they don't even realize it or know how
> nosy their employer is.  People put up with a lot more than invasion of
> privacy issues in order to keep a job.
>
> >4)  If your neighborhood cat burgler reads EN or even goes online & finds
> >out you've completed a ride, it's already too late for them to do
anything
> >about burgling you because you'll be back home before the info is
published.
>
> Unless they have half a brain, which they probably do if they are surfing
> the net, they can simply look and see that a person had done a certain
ride
> (multiday, etc.) for the last three years and what are the odds that
> they'll be gone that same week again this year?  The ride calendar is also
> available for them to check dates. There are always news stories about
> 'internet stalkers', and yes, using the internet to find out information
to
> use against somebody (or harm them in some way, like robbing their home)
is
> becoming a lot more common.
>
> >Results of Little League games are published.  Results of high school
> >basketball & football games are published.  Media reporters can attend
> >endurance races.  Anyone who wants to can be a spectator at an endurance
> >ride, including employers, relatives & enemies.   The races often are
held
> >on public land.   I don't think there is any way endurance racing could
be
> >considered anything but a public event.
>
> Yes, but it's entirely different.  The entire history of each player is
not
> posted, and if it is posted in a local newspaper it is probably not making
> the national news.
>
> >Sorry - I got a little carried away here.  But of all the areas to be
> >concerned about privacy in this day & age, I don't think publishing ride
> >results is one of them.  Lif
>
> I don't think the publishing of ride results is the issue.  It's giving a
> stranger the ability to look up a persons entire ride history.  It's fine
> if other members want to see that information - that's why we all get
> yearbooks, but I personally don't think it is anybody elses business.  I
> did not realize that the role AERC plays in it's record keeping would
allow
> them to give this information out to any non-member over the internet.
>
> Some people place a lot higher regard for their privacy than others
> do.  Lots of us on the internet think nothing of it, heck we have webpages
> highlighting all of the rides we've done -- it's not like we're timid
about
> telling people<G>, but that doesn't mean we should not have respect for
> people that want to keep their private life private.  If somebody wants to
> know my entire ride history (or a horses), then I would feel much more
> comfortable about it if I knew who and why.......obviously other members
> are going to know because I'm out there riding with them.
>
> Happy Trails,
>
> Karen
> in NV
> & Rocky, 2,515 miles
> & Weaver, 3,255 miles
> http://members.xoom.com/ridephotos/
>
>
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