Re: Tying up and ti recommendation

["Debbie Corr" <dbc1@frontiernet.net>]

I also have my horse on Dr. Valentines diet for tying up and since she has
been on it Knock on Wood she has had no tying up incidents.  She if feed a
half scoop of Stratgey by purina a pellet food and OptiE, Biotitn for her
hoofs, and 1 cup of Vegatable Oil twice a day.  And the daily wormer
strongid. Debbie

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> From: Sarah Ralston <ralston@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU>
> To: ribbitttreefrog@yahoo.com; ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Tying up and ti recommendation
> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 9:32 AM
> 
> 	PLEASE don't carbo load your horse as suggested by ti-if anything it
WILL
> make it worse. Your description matches two scenarios well, one with my
> personnal horse, the other with horses affected by a newly described
> genetic disease that alters glycogen storing and makes horses chronically
> prone to tying up. 
> 	Scenario 1: the hyper, excited horse, sweating profusely, not
supplemented
> with electrolytes before, during or after the exercise, dehydrated:
result:
> severe electrolyte imbalance resulting in muscle spasms. Solution:
pre-load
> with an ounce or two of electrolytes 4 hours before riding with free
access
> to water, give small amounts if riding more than an hour or two during
ride
> (MAKE SURE THERE IS WATER TO DRINK IF DOING THIS and DON'T over do it)
and
> definitely dose again when you get back, preferably after the horse has
had
> a drink of warm water.
> 	Scenario 1B: the hyper, excited horse, sweating profusely, OVERDOSED
with
> electrolytes pre-ride, (a bit carbo loaded the daybefore since I decided
to
> at least try it based on our discussions on ride camp), drinking like a
> fish during the ride then not supplemented immediately after the ride.
Not
> dehydrated: result: whole body muscle spasms and electrolyte imbalance
> (shamefully my own horse at the NY 100 last year). Solution: supplement
> everything in moderation!!
> 	Scenario 2: There is GOOD data on the efficacy of a high fat/fiber
ration
> with LOW carbohydrates (Published last fall in American Journal of
> Veterinary Research or JAVMA-can't remember which) by Beth Valentine
(Who,
> by the way is now at the University in Oregon) preventing tying up. 
> 
> The Selenium situation would not seem to be an issue since you are
already
> supplementing with so much!
> 
> I post this reluctantly to ridecamp, anticipating another flame war from
ti
> but really, when it comes to a chronic tie up, the worst thing you can do
> is carbo load in our distance horses!	
> 
> Sarah Ralston, VMD, PhD
>