Re: RE: Re: IMPORTANT TRAIL ISSUE: Forest Service public rulemaking process

["Duncan Fletcher" <dfletche@gte.net>]

Not necessarily Wilderness. It would depend on the rules attached. The
problem with a legal Wilderness (which takes an act of Congress) is the
party size limits (and for the restriction on mountain bikes, orvs, etc for
those folks). If they attempt the same type of rules in Roadless Areas, that
would have obvious negative consequences. That is where the concern is. Keep
it focused on the that.

There are of course other issues that may have an effect on folks in Idaho
that have nothing to do with horse use: timber harvesting, mineral
extraction, etc. But my post focused only on potential problems to
recreational use, and that would depend on the details which is where my
e-mail to the FS is focused.

If you read my e-mail to the FS, one of my concerns was the possible
restriction of vehicles in informal campsites along existing roads because
of a narrow buffer.

Duncan Fletcher
dfletche@gte.net


----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Morris <bobmorris@rmci.net>
To: Dyane Smith <sunibey@sisqtel.net>; <Zaronica@aol.com>
Cc: Ridecamp <Ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 8:50 AM
Subject: RC: RE: Re: IMPORTANT TRAIL ISSUE: Forest Service public rulemaking
process


> To all who care!!!
>
> This issue is very important to trail users and in particular endurance
> riders. There are however, important regional differences in each state.
> That makes it extremely difficult to endorse any part of the program.
>
> Here in Idaho we are concerned about any more w(W)ilderness and this
> non-roaded/roadless proclamation is creating defacto wilderness. Idaho is
> second to only Alaska in this type of area. Endurance competition is not
> allowed in wilderness areas. One of the local areas under consideration is
> where we hold some rides! It is logged over land and holds the only
> designated four wheel drive road in this part of the state.
>
> Acceptance of the proposal becomes difficult when the maps of the proposed
> withdrawals are examined. The Agency's (USFS) cartographers worked hard to
> draw the lines around mining claims, bordering within feet of the roads
they
> wanted kept and other such things. All in all, it just is a poor decision
> for us in Idaho.
>
> Just this morning the local paper brought forth there is an additional
> effort being made by some groups for more wilderness here in Idaho. To
> declare several million acres more!  The interesting thing is, while
> declaring these areas closed to certain types of activities, the banned
> activities MUST find some other place to exist. That means greater impact
on
> the few remaining places allowed. That cascades to the advantage of those
> persons advocating closures. They then point to the heavy impact areas
left
> and declare the activities as extremely detrimental. Very vicious circle
and
> we all get hurt.
>
> Bob Morris
> Morris Endurance Enterprises
> Boise, ID
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dyane Smith [mailto:sunibey@sisqtel.net]
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 10:28 PM
> To: Zaronica@aol.com
> Cc: Ridecamp
> Subject: RC:  Re: IMPORTANT TRAIL ISSUE: Forest Service public rulemaking
> process
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Zaronica@aol.com>
> To: <ridecamp@endurance.net>; <LOVELLBAGS@aol.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 8:08 PM
> Subject: RC: Sunday's Headlines!
> > > Clinton, before leaving office Jan. 20, 2001, has pledged to change
the
> > management of millions of acres of public lands, largely in the West.
We
> have been discussing Trails and this represents 40 to 60
> > million acres of trails that could potentially be closed to any type of
> > competitive event be it CTR or     Endurance.
>
> The Forest Service is conducting a national scoping process to evaluate
> public comment on several proposed rule changes.  These rules concern a
plan
> to limit new roads in areas which have previously been designated
> "roadless".  To quote an 11/10/99 "Notice of intent to prepare an
> environmental impact statement", "This proposed rule is designed primarily
> to better manage the existing national forest road system.  It would also
> establish new procedural requirements to help managers make more informed
> decisions concerning entry into roadless areas."
>
> The deadline for public comment is TOMORROW.  If anyone is interested, I
> would encourage them to visit the website set up by the Forest Service to
> address this issue and also for anyone interested to write and ask for
more
> time for public comment.  The fact that the period for comment has
occurred
> during Thanksgiving and Christmas has caught a lot of groups unprepared to
> offer substantive response.  The roadless area rule website is:
> http://roadless.fs.fed.us.
>
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