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I normally ignore Tom when he goes on these bents, but just wanted to say that I agree with what is written below. For me, to finish will be to win, because after an accident that broke both bones in my leg and smashed my knee joint last year, Doctors said I would never ride again. Well, I was back in the saddle at 6 1/2 months. It wans't elegant, or the best equitation, but we're doing it, and getting back to where I'll compete again. After something like this happnes to you, your priorties about life change a lot. If they don't, you've really got a problem I'd also like to say thanks to the people on this list who gave advice and encouragement, and also rehab advice. It helped tremendously. My Doctor is amazed. Helga Loncosky Archival Morgan Record http://home.att.net/~a_m_r/index.html Beacon Morgan Horses, Ltd. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/5292/ hblmh@ptd.net *********************************************************** No heaven can heaven be, if my horse isn't there to welcome me. -----Original Message----- From: kbeason@cland.net <kbeason@cland.net> To: ridecamp@endurance.net <ridecamp@endurance.net> Date: Sunday, December 19, 1999 1:01 PM Subject: RC: Mr. Ivers/mottos Open message to Mr. Ivers Re: To Finish Is To Win Motto: a word, phrase, or sentence chosen as expressive of the goals or ideals of a nation, group, etc; a maxim adopted as a principle of behavior. Dear Mr. Ivers: Usually, I am a lurker on ride camp. It has been my experience that while the giving and receiving of information is a useful method of exploring topics, when it comes down to beliefs, it is difficult to change minds regardless of the amount of rhetoric thrown about. I also realize that from what I have been able to glean reading messages on ride camp, you derive much pleasure from being a "devil's advocate" and from "stirring the pot" so to speak. Please understand that this message is not a personal attack on you or your lack of understanding of the sport of endurance riding. I do not know you, and even if we were friends, it would be improper of me to do so. However, when you pronounce "to finish is to win" lame, and make derogatory remarks about that motto, I feel I need to reply. Whenever I am competing in a difficult ride, and I know the front runners are hours ahead of me, I do not quit and go to the trailer because I am not out in front. That is not the goal I have set for my participation in this sport. The wonderful thing about endurance riding is that every rider can have individual goals that can and do span the entire spectrum of competition. Several years ago, as I waited at the finish line of a difficult 50 for a dear friend to get in, I was joined by every rider in attendance. "Those riders had requessted ride management hold the awards for the real "winner" who took five and a half more hours to complete the ride than the lst to finish horse/rider team. This "loser" was ill with terminal cancer, and this would be the last endurance ride she would compete in. I defy you to say that "to finish is to win" was a "lame" motto for her. I am positive there are other stories that also reflect the appropriateness of AERC's current motto. It is indeed fortunate for me that my feelings of accomplishment for my participation in endurance riding do not depend on your definition of a winner, and neither did Jo Tate's. Rah Rah for the lst to finish, the sport needs the light from the glory of their accomplishments. God Bless the finishers, they are the backbone of our sport. Perhaps the area of carbo's rather than the area of mottos should remain your area of expertise. If the Motto of AERC needs to be changed, leave that process to those that understand, respect, and participate in the sport. Sincerely, Karren Beason Karren Beason kbeason@cland.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/RideCamp =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/RideCamp =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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