Re: RE: Different milage buckets - end of topic

["superpat" <superpat@gateway.net>]

Hey there, Sue,
"...that they are not really riding dressage until they are at least
First Level.  I feel you would see a major reduction in riders at Training
Level if this kind of attitude was prevalent."

Well, I guess it is becoming apparent that I am a different kind of fish but
no, I would not stop entering schooling shows note they are called
"schooling shows" if my scores were not kept and acknowledged in some form
or other. I take dressage lessons for the fun of it and for the benefit I
feel it gives to my horse. I ride the tests as a measure (for me) as to how
we are progressing (or not). That is why I really appreciate the comments of
a tough judge. Gives me things to work on. Maybe one day soon we will move
up to First Level and won't that be fun, because the tests and movements
within the tests are so much more challenging and varied. Are there some
similarities here between that dreaded LD word and the E word?
----- Original Message -----
From: Sue Brown <sbrown@wamedes.com>
To: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Cc: <bobmorris@rmci.net>; <dleblanc@mindspring.com>; <navion@lightspeed.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 10:15 AM
Subject: RC: RE: Different milage buckets - end of topic


> >I AM NOT DOING ENDURANCE RIDES WHEN I
> >RIDE LD!  But I have just as much fun, train just as hard, drive as many
> >miles to rides and do not bitch about not getting my miles recorded as
> >endurance miles. I am afraid that egos are at the bottom of this entire
> >question.
> >
>
> I can appreciate the distinction between endurance distances and LD
> distances, and that miles ridden in LD do not count towards miles in
> "Endurance", but what I'm gathering by the various posts is that, even tho
> I am a member of AERC, the miles I may ride in LD won't count for any AERC
> total mileage miles I may accumulate over the years.  Is this accurate?
In
> other words, are all AERC LD miles and points awarded during the year just
> zeroed out at the end of the year?  A person who spends a season riding a
> few LD in preparation for further distances would then appear as if they
> have done nothing that year...no AERC miles accumulating towards any
> lifetime total at all.
>
> If all of this is true, why even have LD as part of AERC?  The "E" in AERC
> stands for Endurance, not puny little novice training distances (not my
> feelings but the gist of what I'm getting from some others) and the LD
> riders, while encouraged to belong to AERC, get nothing for their support
> of the organization.  Why not treat (and label) this distance as a "Fun
> Ride" similar to a poker ride or the 15 mile Fun Rides already around?
> Just pay your $15-25 or whatever for the privilege of riding on marked
> trails and be done with it.
>
> Or maybe AERC should be considered A"D"RC (to acknowledge *distance*
riding
> and not *just* endurance miles) and have divisions within the organization
> where you can accumulate miles and points in either endurance distances or
> limited distances (and show that distinction within the organization) but
> have the total number of miles ridden (and paid for) under the umbrella of
> the organization be the total number of A"D"RC miles ridden.  The USDF
> acknowledges the Training Level competitors as dressage riders but
> differentiates the levels within the organization...not trying to
encourage
> new dressage advocates to join the organization or pay ride fees to ride
in
> a show and then tell them that their rides will not count for anything in
> the USDF...that they are not really riding dressage until they are at
least
> First Level.  I feel you would see a major reduction in riders at Training
> Level if this kind of attitude was prevalent.
>
> My feeling here is that AERC could either drop LD as a sanctioned distance
> and a part of AERC or change their name and their attitude to reflect
> riders of DISTANCE not just "endurance" lengths, but keep the distinction
> within the organization...have two columns of points tallied (LD and
> Endurance distances) AND have a total sum of ALL lifetime miles ridden and
> paid for in support of the organization (both LD and endurance distances.)
> If they don't want to count LD miles or find it too labor intensive to
keep
> track of AERC member's miles at this distance, why award the points,
miles,
> and awards to begin with?
>
> Or maybe I've just totally missed the boat on this one!  If someone joins
> an organization, shouldn't their participation count for something?  Not
> saying that LD miles should appear in the endurance distances column...but
> why have them not count towards a total ridden *for the organization*?
> Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying that LD should be labeled as
> "endurance" (I'm not advocating the DUMBING DOWN of "endurance"...and I
> really don't like that term used to reflect someone riding LD!) but why
not
> count the LD miles in the lifetime total...as Distance miles ridden?
>
> Sue (who hasn't made it out of LD yet (next year if all goes according to
> plan)...and who may be starting several students in the future in LD (have
> a few right now that plan to start next season) but will NOT encourage
them
> to join AERC until they are up to riding longer distances...they don't
have
> a lot of extra money to spend on something that doesn't do anything for
them.)
>
> sbrown@wamedes.com
> Tyee Farm
> Marysville, Wa.
>
>
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