Re: 25's v 50s

["Maggie Mieske" <mmieske@netonecom.net>]

I'm not knocking CTR....it's just that I learned my horse was NOT geared
for CTR and after finding out how much more I enjoyed endurance, that was
it for me.  I know we will have to ride some CTR with new horses and if I
am going for mileage or anything within our region or state, some CTR is
inevitable but it is not my first choice.  Just a personal preference. 
Actually, CTR is quite a challenge to me....timing myself to arrive just
where and when I need to.  I hate sitting around at 2 miles.  But my
gelding that I started out with just doesn't have the PRs it takes to score
and place well.  He comes down to endurance parameters ok and is doing
better with each ride as he learns to relax but my CTR friends have horses
that score 9-1s.  I can't compete with that!!  :)  My gelding seems to keep
saying "What the hell did we stop for THIS time?"  He gets pretty impatient
with those surprise checks though he seems to be understanding now about
eating and drinking at vet checks on an endurance ride.
Maggie

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> From: Dyane Smith <sunibey@sisqtel.net>
> To: Maggie Mieske <mmieske@netonecom.net>
> Cc: Ridecamp <Ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Re: 25's v 50s
> Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 9:01 PM
> 
> Maggie,
> I personally would never knock CTR.  I learned an enormous amount--not
the
> least of which was rating the horse over a lot of miles.  However, at
least
> with Suni after the first one, I think I would have been better off in
> endurance.  Suni could walk faster than most of the rides were timed.  So
he
> was bored and he wasted a lot of energy jigging or dancing around me
while
> we hung out at the 2 mile point.
> Dyane
> N. Ca
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Maggie Mieske <mmieske@netonecom.net>
> To: Dyane Smith <sunibey@sisqtel.net>
> Cc: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: 25's v 50s
> 
> 
> > Just to throw a glitch in there, our stallion will be starting out on
25
> > LDs next year... he won't be 5 until June and they won't be fast
25s....6
> > hours to complete 25 miles of endurance is better than 4 and 1/2 for 25
> CTR
> > and I feel we can take better care of him.  Besides, we want to get him
> > used to being crewed and drinking or eating just about anywhere.  I
just
> > prefer endurance to CTR if given a choice.  We may move him up to a 35
or
> > 40 mile CTR mid summer (or a 25 LD plus a 25 CTR same weekend) to
prepare
> > him for longer distances but our plan at this point is to try one or
two
> > 50s late in the season next year to see how he does.  No flaming,
please.
> > This is our "tentative" plan, pending the multitude of things that can
> > happen to the "best laid plans".  It is all groundwork for being a
future
> > 100 miler horse someday and I feel we need to bring him up
> > slowly...besides, if I am doing 50s on my gelding and also have to ride
> > another day of 25 miles...I would prefer it be endurance (LD) anyway. 
I
> am
> > delighted to just make it through 50 miles now.  Don't know if I can
> handle
> > a second day!!  All groundwork for building ME up to be a one time 100
> > miler!!  :)
> > Maggie
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: Dyane Smith <sunibey@sisqtel.net>
> > > To: Sweaney <sweaney@lightspeed.net>
> > > Cc: Ridecamp <Ridecamp@endurance.net>
> > > Subject: RC:  25's v 50s
> > > Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 5:56 PM
> > >
> > > Thanks, Karen.  So far everyone who has responded has been in
agreement
> > > about this.  Ideally, I'd like to start out with a 12 hr. 50 (maybe
> 11:30
> > to
> > > be on the safe side).  Hopefully, I can find another one or two
riders
> > who
> > > also want to start ten minutes after the group and time their ride to
> > take
> > > most of the allotted time.
> > > Dyane
> > > N. Ca
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Sweaney <sweaney@lightspeed.net>
> > > To: Dyane Smith <sunibey@sisqtel.net>; ridecamp
<ridecamp@endurance.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 9:30 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Cass at Liberty Run
> > >
> > >
> > > > Of the two mares that I've started in endurance, neither did more
than
> > two
> > > > 25's.  I did two 25's with the first mare because *I* was just
> starting
> > > out,
> > > > and I did one 25 on the second mare because I wanted to just show
her
> > the
> > > > "process" of an endurance ride.  It is my opionion that you can do
> 25's
> > at
> > > > home!  We generally ride about 18 - 22 miles every Saturday anyway.
> > > >
> > > > I have never gone to a ride to race so my strategy is different
than
> > what
> > > > others may be doing.  We ride 50's but we do them slowly.  I have
> taken
> > > all
> > > > 12 hours before!  I recently completed my first 75 miler with a
horse
> > that
> > > > has done 50's and only one 25 miler.
> > > >
> > > > Karen & Montoya DSA
> > > > sweaney@lightspeed.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Dyane Smith <sunibey@sisqtel.net>
> > > > To: Rides 2 Far <rides2far@juno.com>
> > > > Cc: Ridecamp <Ridecamp@endurance.net>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 8:04 AM
> > > > Subject: RC: Re: Cass at Liberty Run
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, October 16, 1999 9:04 PM, Angie McGhee wrote
> > > >
> > > >  I never do 25's.
> > > > >
> > > > Angie,
> > > > Why not do 25's.  I have heard that a slow 50 on an easy trail is
> > better
> > > > because the horse learns that this is a relatively LONG ride,
learns
> to
> > > > drink on the trail and pace himself.  Presumably you learn that
too.
> > What
> > > > do you think?
> > > > Go for it, you guys, I NEED ROLE MODELS.
> > > > Dyane
> > > > N. Ca> >
> > > > >
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