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>>On the news tonight it has been announced that the Mustang killers have
>>(one)to date and two more are being sought for arrest. 21 year old
>>MARINES. Are we not pround of these fine men. I am stll crying but I just
>>needed to post this message for all of us who have followed this story.
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>>Sandy Rovane
>>Mr. Man
>>Rowdy Man
>>Tom Tom Man We are partying in the barn for the Mustangs in heaven for
>>these crimes against them. I would love to be a jurior in this trial. I
>>would do it for no pay. Yes, Yes, Yes. I did send my $100. for the arrest
>>fund.
>>At 11:18 AM 1/12/1999 -0800, ridecamp-d-request@endurance.net wrote:
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>>>
>>>ridecamp-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 48
>>>
>>>Today's Topics:
>>> Riding W/ running martingales (long) [ Lynette Helgeson
>><helgeson@lansford ]
>>> Re: Fat? [ Susan Evans Garlinghouse
>><suendavid ]
>>> Re: More feed questions [ Susan Evans Garlinghouse
>><suendavid ]
>>> Re: More feed questions [ BMcCrary27@aol.com ]
>>> Re: why join AERC? Trails Conference [ Nancy DuPont
>><htrails@earthlink.net ]
>>> Re: More feed questions [ Susan Evans Garlinghouse
>><suendavid ]
>>> Re: Martingales, head tossing etc. [ "S. Brown" <sbrown@wamedes.com> ]
>>>
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>>>Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 10:14:29 -0600
>>>From: Lynette Helgeson <helgeson@lansford.ndak.net>
>>>To: David Bennett <benamil@juno.com>
>>>CC: ridecamp@endurance.net, ayers@plainfield.bypass.com
>>>Subject: Riding W/ running martingales (long)
>>>Message-ID: <369B74E5.FC7DF8CA@lansford.ndak.net>
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>>>I have one question for the ones of you that are still not listening and
>>>continuing to put running martingales on your horses every time you
>>>ride. Are you listening to yourselves? Are you listening to others? (ok,
>>>that was two)
>>>Go back through all of the posts on this discussion and read them
>>>carefully with an open mind to new ideas. Learn from them. Read the
>>>posts from Sue Brown, she does an excellent job of explaining what
>>>problems arise from the constant use of a running martingale. Try
>>>listening instead of being defensive because you feel that someone is
>>>telling you that you are doing something wrong. Just think of others
>>>that you see that are doing something that is not in the best interest
>>>for the horse and you try telling them to try something different and
>>>they get defensive and get mad at you, and will not listen to you. That
>>>is what is happening here. You guys with the running martingales like
>>>the shortcut and you do not want to listen to a different and better
>>>way. You are getting defensive. If you use running martingales all the
>>>time when you ride a certain horse, then something is not right and you
>>>need to figure out what is wrong. There is no horse in the world that
>>>has to be ridden with an running martingale. I know that I could, or any
>>>good trainer, re-teach your horse or find the problem that is causing
>>>the head tossing. If you don't want to come to ND, may I suggest a good
>>>couple of books Mary Twelveponies' book, "THERE ARE NO PROBLEM HORSES,
>>>ONLY PROBLEM RIDERS" she goes into easy to understand ways about how
>>>your body and hands affect the way the horse moves and also how to get
>>>the horse to give to the bit, control, etc. She also has a book called
>>>Starting the Colt, which is very good. She also believes in the less
>>>equipment the better. You will enjoy the book, any one would. Good
>>>common sense riding. Also Western Horseman has a book out called Bits
>>>and Biting that explains how each of the bits work in the mouth and has
>>>great diagrams. Good book. It will help you to understand bits. Plus
>>>there was also many other good ideas from the list on teeth, chiro work,
>>>and a horse can also toss their head because their saddle don't fit. And
>>>the lady who posted about her horse tossing his head in the pasture,
>>>sometimes they will do that if there is flys buzzing around. I would
>>>also would look at chiro. work, because I have a hard time believing
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