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You might try a wedge pad under the Big Horn saddle - thicker in front, tapering down to nothing under the cantle. Sounds like the tree is a little too wide for your horse. I'm using an extra wide tree saddle and wedge pad to deal with my horse's downhill back - the pad also helps keep the saddle in place very well riding down hills. Just make sure the fattest part of the wedge pad is sticking out in front of the saddle. (State Line has these pads - Cashel Pads). Steph -----Original Message----- From: CASEBEER [mailto:casbeer@molalla.net] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 1999 4:23 AM To: ridecamp@endurance.net Subject: RC: Big Horn Saddles I'm currently having problems with mine shooting forward over my young horses shoulders on down hills. Of course, he's a little pot-bellied, and doesn't have great withers yet. The center-fire rigging puts the cinch at the fat part of his belly, and the cinch just wants to keep working it's way toward his elbows, which pulls the whole saddle forward. I've been using just the front rings with better success, but it still works forward. Any suggestions? I like the saddle, it's comfortable, easy to post, etc. Do you think once his withers "come up" a bit more (he's currently 4) it won't be such a problem? I did order a crupper, in the meantime I've been riding him in a Stubben (wide tree) which fits great. Brenda Casebeer Molalla, OR Cruise (easy keeper extroardinaire) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/RideCamp =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/RideCamp =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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