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Re: Other Sport Horse Organization Membership Fee Structures
- To: "Teresa Van Hove" <vanhove@unavco.ucar.edu>, <thomas@amgen.com>, <aerc@foothills.net>
- Subject: Re: Other Sport Horse Organization Membership Fee Structures
- From: "Robert Morris" <bobmorris@rmci.net>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:40:05 -0700
- Cc: <ridecamp@endurance.net>, <bmccrary27@aol.com>, <kbbaird@rev.net>, <baldwin@ionet.net>, <CMikeT@aol.com>, <equest@pacbell.net>, <otdumas@laplaza.org>, <dave@HorsesDacor.com>, <jackson@inconnect.com>, <dfrazier@mail.llion.org>, <lindavaneq@juno.com>, <lriedel769@aol.com>, <mmsprice@mail.ptd.net>, <Merryben@aol.com>, <ramey@wvi.com>, <renegade12@juno.com>, <carmen@hiwaay.net>, <snewman@fcc.gov>, <step@fsr.com>, <NdurN@aol.com>, <sschom@platte1.platte1.k12.wy.us>, <Cancer@inetworld.net>, <mikeita@txk.net>, <ENDURANCEVET@WRITEME.COM>
- Reply-To: "Robert Morris" <bobmorris@rmci.net>
Teresa:
<<<Stagg Newman has started the process of having Doyle
>Patrick get these costs analyzed so that the board can come up with an
ADULT family membership fee which reflects the costs of membership. >>>
Remember that what the costs show for a membership is not what you want to
set the fees at. Fees should be set at something like cost plus 25 to 30
percent. If this is not done you will never be capable of improvement of
services. This is one reason that the AERC has been behind the eight ball
for many years.
Bob Morris
Morris Endurance Enterprises
Boise, ID
-----Original Message-----
From: Teresa Van Hove <vanhove@unavco.ucar.edu>
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Date: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Other Sport Horse Organization Membership Fee Structures
>Bob,
>
>We proposed a change in the AERC fees from the current $65/$75
>for single/family membership to $65/$90 for a 2 adult family (married
>couple to meet AERC's family requirement). If one parent and 2 kids ride
>their fees would remain at $85 under the proposal that we came up with.
>While it is interesting to see what other groups charge for membership,
>we did keep in mind that AERC membership includes a decent endurance
>magazine and yearbook. I do feel that the per issue costs of these
>publications should be subtracted from family/group memberships which only
>receive one copy. Stagg Newman has started the process of having Doyle
>Patrick get these costs analyzed so that the board can come up with an
>ADULT family membership fee which reflects the costs of membership.
>When the fee reflects the costs then it will not be neccessary to
>be so restrictive of who can join under a family/group option. We fully
>expect the board to continue offering jr family memberships at the current
>$10, as well as offering a comparable discount on membership for single
jrs.
>whose parents do not happen to be in AERC. (Making the new single jr
>membership $50 instead of $65 if our estimate of costs was close.)
>Since AERC would be broke if not for the sponsorships that Randy Eiland &
>the sponsorship commmitte brought in, we are not asking for any reduction
>in single membership dues at this time. We hope that offering a group
>membership option will make it possible for some singles who currently
>can not afford to join AERC to become members. While AERC may lose some
>non-riding $10 members with the change, I believe that overall the
>organization will benefit from accurate, non-restrictive fees, with
>jr. discounts.
>
>Teresa Van Hove
>Mt. Region, #M17417
>
>
>
>>
>> Barb:
>>
>> Your information on the membership structure of the other organizations
was
>> very interesting to say the least.
>>
>> Using your information it seems that the AERC membership for a family
>> consisting of two adults and two juniors is a real bargain or the AERC
>> membership is very under priced.
>>
>> This combo (a family of four) is $95 in the AERC, $225 in the USCTA, $130
in
>> the USDF and approximately $210 in the AHSA ( I do not know the exact
>> discipline fee so used an average)
>>
>> Sure looks like we need to up the fees by at least 20% to be on a par!
And
>> think what the Canadians would have to pay then!!!
>>
>> Seems like we are getting a real bargain with our present rates. Do you
>> really want to go before the BoD and ask for the increase??
>>
>> Bob Morris
>> Morris Endurance Enterprises
>> Boise, ID
>
>
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