Re: ridecamp-d Digest V97 #719
Linda Durkee (silkyn@gate.net)
Tue, 04 Nov 97 20:24:04 PST
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> ridecamp-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 719
>
> Today's Topics:
> Riding in the sand.
> tapeworms
> Re: Beet Pulp
> Re: tapeworms
> PA. kid needs trail horse
> Re: Beet Pulp (where do you get it?)
> Re: Beet Pulp (where do you get it?)
> Any Morgaloosas Out There?
> Re:Tapeworms
> Tapes/dogs and fleas
> oleanders?
> Re: oleanders?
> Re: Riding in the sand.
> KY DIEHARDS - Results
> Re: ridecamp-d Digest V97 #717
> saddle fit -- the distance rider's bane
> Re: Nutrition summary
> Lexington, KY visit
> Free offer from Oasis Casino and Sportsbook !!
> Re: Tapeworms in horses??
> Re: saddle fit -- the distance rider's bane
> Re: saddle fit-- the distance rider
> Greetings
> Re: Beet Pulp (where do you get it?)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 11:57:07 -0700
> From: penny mccauley <penny@zianet.com>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Riding in the sand.
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> Kat,
> Here where I live in SW New Mexico we have many sandbeds both on
> endurance trails and at home. Since I ride my horse barefoot most of the
> time I ride in a lot of sand.
>
> I start out after a lay-off with about 3 miles in the sand in a walk and
> trot. I do this every other day for a week. Then I'll add some cantering
> for a couple of days. On the fourth week I'll add one mile. I'll keep
> adding one mile per week until I'm doing about seven miles at a trot,
> walk and canter every other day. At this point I'll start working on
> speed. I'll ask for an extended trot down the draw for about three and
> one half miles, then turn around and canter back up the draw until I
> feel the horse really laboring. Then I'll slow to an extended trot what
> distance is left.
>
> After about two weeks of this I will start doing a twenty mile ride in
> the sand using all three gaits, with the extended trot about
> seventy-five percent of the time. I only ride the twenty miles once a
> week, but still continuing to ride the seven miles every other day.
>
> I have found that using easyboots on the long ride helps my horse paddle
> through the sand with better ease. In competition I do put easyboots on
> the front feet. We have some very rocky trails here with the sand.
>
> Hope this helps you out a bit. Drop me a line if you have any questions.
>
> Penny and the Grey Ghost.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 15:54:37 EST
> From: esppatty@juno.com (Patty A Lambert)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: tapeworms
> Message-ID: <19971101.154944.4903.0.esppatty@juno.com>
>
> Aren't the dog & cat tapeworms a different species from the kind horses
> get? I thought they couldn't get them from each other. Does anyone know?
>
> Patty (PA)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 13:12:14 -0800
> From: Susan Evans Garlinghouse <suendavid@worldnet.att.net>
> To: David Bennett <benamil@juno.com>
> CC: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Beet Pulp
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> David Bennett wrote:
> >
> > Susan - I wonder if the dry beet pulp that you mentioned as used in the
> > studies was shredded. What many of us get here in the Southeast are
> > pellets that expand considerably when soaked. A large coffee can full
> > makes about 5 gallons when soaked. It would seem that this would be
more
> > a problem than the dry shredded beet pulp.
>
>
> Hi David,
>
> The one study that immediately leaps to hand that used beet pulp
> specifically described the beet pulp as "loose, dry" which I would take
> to mean the shredded rather than pellets. However, I get both the
> shredded and the pellets here in the Southwest, and if memory serves,
> they expand in water about the same amount---a large coffee can of
> pellets weighs about 4 pounds, plus 2 1/2 cans of water soaked overnight
> almost fills a five gallon bucket when it's fluffed up a bit the next
> morning. Offhand, I think the shredded beet pulp measured by equal
> volume weighs a little less---that is, a coffee can of shreddedbeet pulp
> isn't as compact as the pellets so is less by weight.
>
> However, in the studies, feed is always measured by weight, not volume,
> so five pounds of beet pulp is five pounds of beet pulp regardless of
> the form it's delivered in. I don't think it would make any difference,
> however, I have to go get some more beet pulp this week, anyway. I'll
> throw an equal number of pounds into some buckets with equal water, see
> what the final expanded volume is and let everyone know what happens (am
> I easy to amuse or WHAT).
>
> Susan
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 15:38:01 -0600
> From: Virginia Rice <ricevb@inxpress.net>
> To: Patty A Lambert <esppatty@juno.com>
> CC: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: tapeworms
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> Patty A Lambert wrote:
> >
> > Aren't the dog & cat tapeworms a different species from the kind horses
> > get? I thought they couldn't get them from each other. Does anyone know?
> >
> > Patty (PA)
>
> Yes Patty you are correct. They are different species of
> tapeworms.
>
> Ginny(veterinary Microbiologist) in Wi
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 16:34:22 -0500
> From: Pete and Deb LaBerge <plaberge@epix.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: PA. kid needs trail horse
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> Responsible 12 year old SE Pennsylvania girl is looking for older quiet
App or
> QH type
> gelding with good manners for fun and companionship.If you live in PA or
> surrounding
> state and have a low key semi-retired or outgrown horse who might enjoy a
new
> job
> packing around a great kid in CTR and schooling shows, and you are
interested
> in selling
> or leasing, give us a call @717-529-6256 or email plaberge@epix.net with
> description.
> Debbie LaBerge for Beth Ann LaBerge
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 17:09:22 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Kelly Lynne Nolan" <nolankel@pilot.msu.edu>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Beet Pulp (where do you get it?)
> Message-Id: <199711012209.RAA74366@pilot006.cl.msu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> I have trouble finding beet pulp of any form in the feed stores of W.
> Michigan.
> Are you all special ordering it from a dealer or what?
>
>
> ~Kelly~
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 16:15:45 -0600
> From: Bill & Dee Fortner <wfortner@peop.tds.net>
> To: Kelly Lynne Nolan <nolankel@pilot.msu.edu>
> CC: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Beet Pulp (where do you get it?)
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> Hi Kelly,
> I have to ask my feed store to special order it for me. Sometimes, it
> takes them 3 weeks to get it in.
>
> Dee Fortner
> NE Alabama
>
> Kelly Lynne Nolan wrote:
> >
> > I have trouble finding beet pulp of any form in the feed stores of W.
> Michigan.
> > Are you all special ordering it from a dealer or what?
> >
> > ~Kelly~
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 19:15:45 -0500
> From: "Helga Loncosky" <hblmh@ptd.net>
> To: "CTR" <trailriding@cwa.com>
> Cc: "Endurance Net" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Any Morgaloosas Out There?
> Message-Id: <199711020016.QAA16372@fsr.com>
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> Does anyone know of any Morgan/Appy crosses that might be for sale? I
have
> a lady who desperatly would like to buy one for her husband as a trail
> horse.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Helga Loncosky
> hblmh@ptd.net
> Beacon Morgan Horses
> http://home.ptd.net~hblmh
> ***********************************************************
> "There is something about the outside of a horse
> that is good for the inside of a man."
> -----------Winston Churchill
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 18:50:42 -0800 (PST)
> From: Trish Dowling <dowling@skyway.usask.ca>
> To: ridecamp-d@endurance.net
> Subject: Re:Tapeworms
> Message-id: <ECS9711011842A@skyway.usask.ca>
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>
> Horse tapeworms are completely different than dog and cat tapeworms; they
are
> not exchangeable between
> the species. The tapeworms that you get to see from dogs and cats are
usually
> Dipylidium caninum - and it
> requires the flea to complete its lifecycle. If your dog or cat has
tapeworms,
> they have fleas. They bite to
> scratch at the flea, and end up swallowing the flea and releasing the
tapeworm
> egg. The tapeworm
> segments that you miss and don't see, fall out of the rectum and end up
in the
> dirt or your carpet, where flea
> larvae ingest them. And the cycle repeats itself.
> The horse tapeworms are Paranoplocephala mamillana, Anoplocephala magna
and
> Anoplocephala
> perfoliata. The tapeworm eggs that are passed in the horse manure are
ingested
> by a mite, not a flea.
> Horses are infected when they ingest the mite while grazing. While
pyrantel
> (Strongid) is effective treatment
> for horse tapeworms, it is not effective for dog and cat tapeworms.
>
> Sorry to gross anyone out, but I wanted to end the confusion.
> Cheers,
> Trisha
>
>
> Trisha Dowling, DVM, MS, Diplomate ACVIM & ACVCP
> Associate Professor, Veterinary Clinical Pharmacology
> Western College of Veterinary Medicine
> Saskatoon, SK S7N 5B4
> 306-966-7359/FAX 306-966-7376
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 19:50:58 -0500
> From: SSY <polstar@hutchtel.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Tapes/dogs and fleas
> Message-Id: <v03007801b0817ae18ca0@[206.9.115.7]>
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>
> Correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Dogs do not get tapes from eating segments that are shed from other dogs
> etc. The culprit is the flea. It has been a long time can't find my text
> books today. Believe it is the ingestion of the flea which gives the dog
> the tape. The flea acts as an intermediate (sp?) host. That is why
> getting rid of the fleas will keep the tapes from reinfecting the dog.
Then
> worm the dog. And keep the fleas off the dog........
>
> Will some one explain the horse cycle not clear on that one. In all my
> years have never seen segments in horse apples.
>
> Sigrid
>
> P.S.Also the dog will have obvious white segments in the do do. Looks
like
> rice.
>
> The Space Cadet
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 17:04:48 -0800
> From: Susan Evans Garlinghouse <suendavid@worldnet.att.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: oleanders?
> Message-ID: <345BD1B0.2D23@worldnet.att.net>
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> Hi all,
> Could one of the vets (or anyone else) on the list tell me whether
> oleander is really as toxic to horses as they say? I've heard
> everything from "it doesn't matter because no horse will eat it" (yeah,
> right) to "one leaf and they're dead within 24 hours". I heard stories
> a few years ago about Friesians being fed a handful of oleanders by
> well-intentioned show-goers and dying soon thereafter despite veterinary
> intervention.
>
> The reason I ask is because an Elks Lodge is being built right next to
> my place and they want to be able to plant oleanders on the greenbelt
> that separates their property from my horse's corral. Despite a planned
> six foot barrier wall, I know how high oleander can grow and believe me
> when I say that there is no force in nature that will keep George of the
> Jungle (the former Spudnuts, 'cept now we're Spudnutless :-D) out of any
> trouble he sets his sights and appetite on. Not to mention leaves drop
> and winds blow and s**t happens. The final Planning Commission hearing
> is next week and I plan to be there raising holy hell about oleanders if
> this is a threat to my horses. When I called the Elks themselves, I got
> blank looks and a response of, "Oh, don't worry, we have plenty of
> insurance to cover that sort of liability." Like I could place a value
> on Dakota, Cato, Katy and Puzzle. Argh.
>
> Sorry, I know this isn't directly endurance-related, except that if I'm
> right and they're wrong, there might be four less endurance horses in
> the world...any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Susan and...
> Cato ("you know I never eat anything that moves in the wind")
> Katy ("you know I never eat anything not directly from Daddy's hands")
> Puzzle ("you know I never eat anything except sand and leg wraps")
> Dakota aka George of the Jungle ("Look! They're putting in a salad bar
> next door!")
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 20:21:20 -0500
> From: "Frank W. Vans Evers" <vans@cyberspy.com>
> To: suendavid@worldnet.att.net
> CC: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: oleanders?
> Message-ID: <345BD590.7F575A72@cyberspy.com>
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> If you cut a plant and it oozes a milky sap it is NOT good for any thing
> to eat.....
>
> It is poison... Check your local library for specifics.
>
> /s/ Frank in seffner florida
>
> -------------
>
> Susan Evans Garlinghouse wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Could one of the vets (or anyone else) on the list tell me whether
> > oleander is really as toxic to horses as they say? I've heard
> > everything from "it doesn't matter because no horse will eat it" (yeah,
> > right) to "one leaf and they're dead within 24 hours". I heard stories
> > a few years ago about Friesians being fed a handful of oleanders by
> > well-intentioned show-goers and dying soon thereafter despite veterinary
> > intervention.
> >
> > The reason I ask is because an Elks Lodge is being built right next to
> > my place and they want to be able to plant oleanders on the greenbelt
> > that separates their property from my horse's corral. Despite a planned
> > six foot barrier wall, I know how high oleander can grow and believe me
> > when I say that there is no force in nature that will keep George of the
> > Jungle (the former Spudnuts, 'cept now we're Spudnutless :-D) out of any
> > trouble he sets his sights and appetite on. Not to mention leaves drop
> > and winds blow and s**t happens. The final Planning Commission hearing
> > is next week and I plan to be there raising holy hell about oleanders if
> > this is a threat to my horses. When I called the Elks themselves, I got
> > blank looks and a response of, "Oh, don't worry, we have plenty of
> > insurance to cover that sort of liability." Like I could place a value
> > on Dakota, Cato, Katy and Puzzle. Argh.
> >
> > Sorry, I know this isn't directly endurance-related, except that if I'm
> > right and they're wrong, there might be four less endurance horses in
> > the world...any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
> >
> > Susan and...
> > Cato ("you know I never eat anything that moves in the wind")
> > Katy ("you know I never eat anything not directly from Daddy's hands")
> > Puzzle ("you know I never eat anything except sand and leg wraps")
> > Dakota aka George of the Jungle ("Look! They're putting in a salad bar
> > next door!")
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Frank W. Vans Evers
> mailto:vans@cyberspy.com or mailto:vans@ccfs.centcom.mil
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 18:10:08 -0800
> From: Lauren Horn <fourhorn@fea.net>
> To: penny mccauley <penny@zianet.com>
> CC: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Riding in the sand.
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> penny mccauley wrote:
>
> > I have found that using easyboots on the long ride helps my horse paddle
> > through the sand with better ease.
>
>
> Wouldn't pads on the front hoofs offer the same benefit?
>
> Lauren
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:01:33 -0400
> From: "Robby Doll" <robbyd@iglou.com>
> To: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: KY DIEHARDS - Results
> Message-Id: <E0xRqbo-0001XO-00@iglou1>
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> Unofficial
>
> KY DIEHARDS 50
>
> Nov.1
>
> 24 Starters
> 22 Finishers
>
> 1. Tina Rich (5:43)
> 2. Beth Crance
> 3. Bill Wilson
> 4. Connie Caudill (BC)
> 5. Tom Nichols
> 6. Ted Klopenstein
> 7. Pete Dull
> 8. Andrea Redman
> 9. Kathy Kissick
> 10. Ashley Kissick
> 11. Tracy Valdrath
> 12. Denise Colberson
> 13. Amy Whelan
> 14. Vicky Crance
> 15. Susan Kasemeyer
> 16. Tricia Strickler
> 17. Lois McAfee
> 18. Julie Phair ( CAN )
> 19. Connie Peach
> 20. Terry McDonald
> 21. Maggie Flemming
> 22. Denise Tudor-Smith
>
>
> KY DIEHARDS 25
>
> 31 Starters
> 28 Finishers
>
> 1. Doug Sandlin (BC)
> 2. Lonni Jones
> 3. Lana Baxter
> 4. Lisa Winborn
> 5. Eddie Edwards
> 6. Tommy Crain
> 7. Angela Burris
> 8. Elizabeth Higgins
> 9. Brenda Kenley
> 10. Denise Pluckebaum
> 11. Jackie Whitley
> 12. Jerry Fruth
> 13. Kasey Coleman
> 14. Heather Shrum
> 15. Debbie Donninger
> 16. Alice Goff
> 17. Cheryl Fenton
> 18. Eileen Grywalski
> 19. Rita Adam
> 20. Julie Freeland
> 21. Cindy McDonald
> 22. Beth Seers
> 23. Vivian Stefanchek
> 24. Heather Cotterman
> 25. Jim Rogan
> 26. Donna Sellers
> 27. Cathy Cook
> 28. Cheryl Hatcher
>
> Sorry for any misspellings
>
> Robby
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 14:28:27 +1100
> From: "Grahamh Harness" <grahamh@one.net.au>
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> Subject: Re: ridecamp-d Digest V97 #717
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> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 20:13:19 -0800 (PST)
> From: guest@fsr.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: saddle fit -- the distance rider's bane
> Message-Id: <199711020413.UAA21190@fsr.com>
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> From: Chris Paus
> Email: paus@micoks.net
>
> I have a terrific half Arab gelding that is the energizer bunny of horses
and
> has a great personality. Unfortunatly, his back seems to be hard to fit
with
> the right saddle.
>
> Any suggestions for a limited budget (uner $1,000). This horse is 15.1HH,
very
> short back, very leggy,and a barrel shaped belly so the girth always
slides
> forward sending the saddle forward.
>
> I've tried western saddles, english saddles, a Marciante, two wintecs, a
> Stonewall. The white hair below his withers on each side is getting more
> pronounced on his blood bay coat.
>
> Every saddle I try leaves a dry pressure mark just below the withers.
>
> Any ideas will be appreciated.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 23:33:34 -0500 (EST)
> From: Trishmare@aol.com
> To: miksof7@gte.net
> cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Nutrition summary
> Message-ID: <971101233333_1669042380@mrin39>
>
> In a message dated 97-11-01 08:35:34 EST, you write:
>
> << Feed your horse grass hay only . . .but lay awake at night worrying
about
> it. . .h or if your horse works extra hard or if you're staying up at
night
> worrying about it.
> Feed vitamin and mineral supplements based on scoop size no matter what
the
> label says because the labels are all wrong and besides, you'd just stay
up
> at night worrying.
> Feed fat (oil) to your horse for extra calories but . . . Or stay up at
> night and worry about it.
> . . . be sure to have your razors ready to shave off the beards,
> otherwise you'll stay up at night worrying . . .>>>
>
> Gee Mike, Now I'm going to be staying up nights worrying about the fact
that
> I've not been staying up nights worrying about what my horses are (or are
> not) eating. Thanks a lot!!! <g>
>
> Trish & "pretty David"
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 21:01:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: guest@fsr.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Lexington, KY visit
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> From: Lisa Jordan
> Email: PSLJ5@aol.com
>
> I am posting this message for a good friend who is a Northern California
(Bay
> Area) endurance rider and will be visiting Lexington, KY between Nov. 9
-15.
> She is interested in meeting other endurance riders and learning about
trails
> in that part of the country. Riding would be fun too.
>
> ------------------------------
>
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> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:48:12 -0500 (EST)
> From: EndrncRidr@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@fsr.com
> Subject: Re: Tapeworms in horses??
> Message-ID: <971102024811_-895857449@emout04.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 97-10-31 22:07:54 EST, you write:
>
> << .we also have three large dogs, one of the great danes got
> tapeworms, noticably. Well we administered wormer to the dogs(all) for
> tapeworms in case they were all infected......my question is: #1)
Should
> I be worried that my horses have tapeworms too. #2) and if so what can
I
> give them to worm them for tapeworms, just to be on the safe side.....I
> know they are very contagious........Dogs and horses have access to one
> another.
> >>
>
> The tapeworms that dogs and cats carry are carried by two sources. Neither
> source is a source to horses. One source in fleas and the other is rodents
> and small animals. Dog chews self, ingests flea parts, which carry
tapeworm
> eggs, gets tapeworms, or, dog catches rabbit, eats rabbit, ingests
tapeworms
> carried by rabbit, gets tapeworms. Two different types of tapeworms.
> The type of tapeworm that a horse can get in not the types carried by dogs
> and cats. If you are truly interested in what your horse is carrying CALL
> YOUR VET!!! They are usually so loaded with info and so willing to share.
It
> is accurate information, not second hand.
> Tapes carried by dogs and cats are treated with one of three medications.
One
> is Cestex, one is Droncit, and the other is Panacur. I did pose the
question
> to my boss, Dr. Collins, why Strongid would treat tapes in horses, but
not in
> dogs and cats. He told me, "Good Question!". One I aim to find the answer
to.
> The one thing I learned is that tapes are of insignifigant concern to a
horse
> compared to the many other more dangerous parasites they have to deal
with.
> If you are concerned about tapes, Panacur, otherwise known as
fenbendazole,
> will treat just about every internal parasite under the sun.
> Bottom line...TALK TO YOUR OWN VET!! That's what I do.
> Cordially,
> Darlene M. Anderson, LVT
> and the incredible FeatherB
> Stanwood, WA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 09:09:21 EST
> From: benamil@juno.com (David Bennett)
> To: paus@micoks.net
> Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: saddle fit -- the distance rider's bane
> Message-ID: <19971102.090922.9502.0.benamil@juno.com>
>
> You wrote:
> >>I have a terrific half Arab gelding that is the energizer bunny of
> horses and has a great personality. Unfortunatly, his back seems to be
> hard to fit with the right saddle.
>
> Any suggestions for a limited budget (uner $1,000). This horse is 15.1HH,
> very short back, very leggy,and a barrel shaped belly so the girth always
> slides forward sending the saddle forward.
>
> I've tried western saddles, english saddles, a Marciante, two wintecs, a
> Stonewall. The white hair below his withers on each side is getting more
> pronounced on his blood bay coat.
>
> Every saddle I try leaves a dry pressure mark just below the withers.
>
> Any ideas will be appreciated.
> >>
>
>
>
> Hi Chris -
> Sounds like you are in the market for a saddle fitted to your horse...
>
> I tried some of those saddles with my older distance horse and none
> worked very well. The worst was the Wintec because of the pinching of
> the withers. He would short-stride very badly whenever he was carrying
> that saddle. I finally had Marilyn Horstmyer of DeSoto Custom Saddlery
> in Etowah, Tennessee, make a saddle for me. Cost was around $800 about 5
> years ago and is still less than $1000, I think. It works great and I am
> still using it with that horse. I have a new horse that I got this
> summer and that saddle does not fit him at all. I was fortunate to find
> someone with a DeSoto with a wider tree that does fit. So, now I have
> two of them. The size of her trees are not identified so it is sorta
> hit or miss finding a used one that will fit your horse. Also, delivery
> takes several weeks to several months depending on her workload.
>
> Another possibility is Sharon Saare. Not sure about the price of her
> saddles but still around $1000. Both of these saddle makers take bare
> trees and try them on the horse until they find one that fits the best.
> Then the saddle is made on that tree or one just like it. Sharon Saare
> sizes her trees with letters so that if one of her fitting technicians
> tells you that a certain size fits your horse you could possibly find a
> used one that would work. I think that there is a nominal fitting fee
> for a technician to fit your horse, but well worth it to get something
> that is comfortable for your horse and you.
>
> One other thing that I found is that I HAVE to use a crupper to keep any
> saddle back where it belongs. Regardless of the saddle on the horse's
> back, it would slide forward and interfere with the shoulder motion and
> we would get short striding. It is just much worse with the wrong
> saddle. Even in flat riding I always use the crupper and we have no
> problem with it.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Dave Bennett
> Chickamauga, Georgia
> email: benamil@juno.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 08:28:52 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Kelly Lynne Nolan" <nolankel@pilot.msu.edu>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: saddle fit-- the distance rider
> Message-Id: <199711021328.IAA78440@pilot003.cl.msu.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> One of the best articles I've read on saddle fitting can be found by this
URL
> http://www.equiresource.com/usefulinfo/saddle_fit.htm. This is written by
> Connie Micheletti, a very experienced dressage rider and saddle fitter. I
> highly recommend it--it's very well written, and very thorough.
>
> This will help you be able to judge a "perfect" fit of a potential saddle
> before it gets to the point of causing dry spots or white hairs.
>
> Good luck,
> ~kelly~
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 97 21:23:03 EST
> From: johnlb@13594.com
> To: Friend@public.com
> Subject: Greetings
> Message-ID: <Greetings>
>
> Dear Friend,
>
> Have you been thinking how to ride the information super high way into the
> next century?
> Have you ever wondered how to get the most benefits from the internet?