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Better yet, do some basic groundwork and show your horse how to carry
himself/herself without using anything artificial (i.e. mechanical hackamore,
long shank bit, martigales, etc.) which will just encourage being braced. The
best thing you can do with a horse that rushes and evades the bit is to just
do more slow work. I know that seems to go against some endurance training,
but you'd be surprised at how much more settled your horse will be after
teaching it to give to pressure the right way. Also, cross training helps mix
up your horse's routine.
If anyone want more info on these types of subjects, mail me. I can point you
to a lot of videos and books by some really good people.
BTW, I ride my NSH mare with a rope halter or a snaffle and have fewer
problems with carriage. Her previous owners used long shank curb bits,
mechanical hackamores and tie downs. I have NEVER used such items on her and
never will. I will teach her instead of forcing her. Much better for her and
me.
Liz Johanson
Maple Valley/Hobart WA
http://members.aol.com/lazyjarabs/index.html
http://members.aol.com/eajohanson/ArabianWebs.html
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> Subj: RE: Standing martingales....
> Date: 97-09-23 01:10:29 EDT
> From: JHEIM@gunder.com (Jennifer Heim)
> Resent-from: ridecamp@endurance.net
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net (ridecamp)
>
> File: standing.dat (3393 bytes)
> DL Time (TCP/IP): < 1 minute
>
> Gotta comment on this one. Hackamores (mechanical) are designed to lift
> the horse's head and neck way up. It was designed for horses that had a
> tendency to drop their head/neck and evade the bit .... usually are worn
> over a bridle and bit and used to "pop up" the head when dropped too
> far. Mechanical hackamores bring it back up. The flip side of this is
> someone wanting to use a mechanical hackamore to "not use a bit" on
> their pony, the undercarriage of the neck becomes over developed (ewe
> neck) and almost all end up using a standing martingale to bring that
> head back down.
>
> Another suggestion: don't use the mechanical hackamore and use a
> sidepull instead. If you're concerned about the mark a sidepull will
> make on his nose, use a double-rope sidepull. If his head is still
> skyrocketed with the sidepull, use a running martingale and adjust it so
> that when you pull straight up on one side of the running martingale, it
> goes no higher than the top of his wither bone. Never adjust a running
> martingale lower than this. Properly adjusted, this will keep his mouth
> from getting higher than his withers. Plus, with a sidepull, you have
> can use a direct-rein, an indirect rein, a neck rein, and an opposition
> rein. Can't do much besides neck rein with a mechanical hackamore and a
> direct rein can break a jaw.
>
> Good luck
> Jen & the Sunman
>
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> From: Liz Carpenter[SMTP:cvsec@south-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk]
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 1997 10:45 AM
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Standing martingales....
>
> Hi all,
>
> Is it possible to use a standing martingale with a Blair's
> Pattern
> Bitless bridle (sometimes called hackamore) or would one need a
> separate nose piece to fasten it to? The nose of the Blair's is
> fitted correctly and is not low.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Liz and Basil (hoping to be a nose pony)
> --
> -------------------------------------------------
> E. Carpenter
> Institute for Cardiovascular Research
> The University of Leeds
> Leeds LS2 9JT, UK
> + 44 (0113) 2334173
> e.carpenter@leeds.ac.uk
> -------------------------------------------------
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