>Do you have this type of control with a vosal? Can you turn the horse
>around to get a whoa? This is what I was refering to when I asked if
>a "whoa was possible". I really didn't mean to start a training
>discussion <G> or imply that I have the worst trained horse this side
>of the Missouri...
>BTW, thanks to those of you who have already been gracious enough to
>answer my question.....