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> ridecamp-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 395
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> Today's Topics:
> Knees & TEXAS RIDES
> Re: 200 gal water tank
> Re: helmets
> Re: Becky's daughter
> Saddles for sale
> KC Auction II - Central California
> Re: Becky's daughter
> Ride Cancellation [NE]
> puzzling health problem
> puzzling health problem adendum
> Natural Balance Clinic CA
> Backyard Racehorse
> Rude Riders
> Ride & Tie Web Site
> Re: Ride & Tie Web Site
> Wanted: advice on saddles
> Ridecalendar updated for July Endurance News
> vet secretaries and P & R people
> Re: natural trim,plugged ducts
> Re: Info on saddle
> Re: Saddle Rigging Question
> timberon accomodations
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 08:49:37 -0500
> From: Darolyn Butler <darolyn@swbell.net>
> To: "ridecamp-d@endurance.net" <ridecamp-d@endurance.net>
> Subject: Knees & TEXAS RIDES
> Message-ID: <339FFE70.711EBF6A@swbell.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1
>
> Hi!!! Darolyn Butler here. In addressing the knee issue....When I
> first started endurance riding (some 16,000 miles ago), my knees were
> already bad. The 3rd 50 miler I did, I literally could not walk
> afterwards due to internal knee pain, nevermind the abrasive issue
> (which also existed). Thought to myself "Love this sport, but obviousl=
y
> not for me". Then read article in one of the ride magazine about ridin=
g
> with more calf pressure. It WORKED! Took months to retrain mysel=
f
> & even occasionally will slip off the wagon, but a little knee ache
> reminds me quickly to get back in proper position. Down hill running
> (on the ground), gets me too, so my final suggestion is Professional
> Choice knee braces, (incidentally, I do sell them, but they can be
> bought almost anywhere). They are absolutely the best, not only do the=
y
> support bad knees, they protect them from abrasion as well.
> One other suggestion if you don't try the knee supports. Rub a mixture
> of vasaline & desitin on your knees, (or any other parts that rub).
> This will usually prevent chaffing, & its never too late, even after =
it
> has started, the desitin will medicate, lubricate & make it feel a lot
> better. I buy the stuff by the tub (special order) at Walmart. You =
can
> reload it in old seringes for easy carrying if you like.
> On & on.....this mixture or the pure desitin is GREAT for any kinda of
> saddle rubs or scratches on the horse as well. Don't go anywhere
> without my Desitin, & its absolutely one of the things I carry in my
> fanny pack.
>
> TEXAS RIDES....the next one is June 21...its a first time ride, but
> appears to be very well managed. Its in the west Texas area. call
> Jerry Green at (806) 348 7953 for more info. All the fall rides are
> great & very well managed. Pretty forrested trails etc.
> Happy & Challenging Trails,
> Darolyn Butler
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 07:35:39 -0700
> From: Gary Fend <garyfend@pacbell.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: 200 gal water tank
> Message-ID: <33A0093B.D@pacbell.net>
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> Montannna@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > density of water is approx 7 lbs/gal so 1400 lbs for a filled 200 gal=
water
> > tank. ballpark figure.....
>
> I always thought water weighed 8.34 pounds per gallon or 1668 lbs for =
> the 200 gallon tank.
> No wonder it took me 6 years to get an engineering degree!
>
> Gary
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:22:32 -0600
> From: Brent.Seufert@pipe.nova.ca (Brent Seufert)
> To: "Endurance Net" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Re: helmets
> Message-Id: <199706121522.JAA21196@smu007sv>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> Ah Haaaaaa......
>
> >Here is an excerpt from a recent rec.equestrian item:
> >
> >I've just received a fax from the National Brain Injury Association =
in
> >Washington, D.C., containing some statistics I requested. For rec.eq,
> >and for a community relations project I'm hoping to plan with my local
> >pony club, I also requested some stats. on horseback riding-related
> >traumatic brain injury (TBI). I'm quoting information contained in
> >these fact sheets. Here goes:
> >
> >"Brain injury is responsible for more than 17% of all horseback riding
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I always thought we must be brain injured to get on the back of another=
live
> critter that has it's own agenda and reactions to external stimuli.
>
> <great big GRIN>
>
> >injuries, and more than 60% of equestrian-related deaths." (They cite=
d
> >this quote from the National Electronic Injury Surveillance System,
> >1991-92)
> >
> >"Equestrian helmets are 20% effective in reducing the incidence of
> >traumatic brain injury among horse riders." (Cited Centers for Diseas=
e
> >Control, Injuries associated with horseback riding, United States. =
MMWR
> >May 1990; 39:329-332).
> >
> >I would think that, according to the reference, the helmet quote
> >statistic would be a bit higher if the research had been performed las=
t
> >year. If I remember correctly, helmets in 1990 (and the time precedin=
g
> >1990 when research was being performed) were not as advanced as they =
are
> >now.
> >
> >
>
>
> Brent Seufert
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:04:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Terry Woolley Howe <twhowe@inetworld.net>
> To: fourhorn@mail.fia.net, ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Becky's daughter
> Message-Id: <199706121704.KAA22834@inet1.inetworld.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> At 10:26 PM 6/11/97 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >Many riders who were right behind you guys said it effected them deepl=
y
> >and they would never forget the screaming and being unable to stop and
> >help on such a narrow, dangerous section of the trail.
>
> Lauren,
>
> One of the things that makes the Mt. Laguna ride so beautiful is =
the
> fact that the majority of the course is on one-horse trails (instead =
of fire
> roads), with some along hillsides with beautiful views. With respect =
to
> this particular portion of the trail: the Bill Stucky/Mt. Laguna Ride =
has
> used this section of trail on and off for the past twenty years. With =
the
> hundreds of riders who have been on this section, this is the first tim=
e
> there was ever a mishap.
>
> My understanding of what caused the problem (Becky, correct me if =
I am
> wrong) was that Katie had forgotten her saddle. In her enthusiasm to =
do the
> ride, she borrowed a saddle from someone and did not use a breast colla=
r.
> As she started up an incline, the saddle slipped back on the horse's =
flank
> and threw Katie and the horse off balance. So while this is a trail =
that
> does require some horsemanship, I don't think the trail was dangerous. =
>
> One of the first rules of endurance riding is to never use equipme=
nt in
> a ride that you have not tried out ahead of time. I'm sure Becky would=
not
> have allowed Katie to use the saddle without a breast collar if she had
> known it did not fit her horse properly and would slip back onto the =
horse's
> flank.
>
> There were several people who stopped. Fortunately Katie was spon=
sored
> by her private physican Donald Adema. Donald stayed with Katie. Marsha
> Adema ponyed Don's horse to the vet check. Bob Spoor who was riding =
one of
> Jennifer Oltmann's horses, hiked down to get Katie's horse while Jennif=
er
> held his horse. He then ponyed Katie's horse into the vet check. Cher=
ie
> Dhaliwal rode back down to where the photographer was to get help that =
way.
> Not knowing whether there was a serious problem with rider and horse, =
my
> husband David (M.D.), the Gary Amaral, one of our vets, drove around =
from
> the other side and hiked in. This was a situation that could have bee=
n
> very serious, but worked out well. While Katie did not finish the ride=
, she
> got a certificate for $10 off her next ride.
>
> Lauren, thanks again for coming out to help as a volunteer at the =
vet
> checks. The many volunteers we have at our rides is what makes it so
> enjoyable for the riders.
>
> Terry Woolley Howe
> Manager, Mt. Laguna Ride
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 14:43:06 -0400 (EDT)
> From: LRiedel769@aol.com
> To: ridecamp-D@endurance.net
> Subject: Saddles for sale
> Message-ID: <970612144302_-628763048@emout07.mail.aol.com>
>
> Two Stubben Siegfried saddles--one 17" the other 16-1/2." Complete wit=
h
> fleece pads, fleece lined cinches and stirrups. $200 ea. One new fle=
ece
> pad with place for foam insert. $25.00. Louise Riedel, e-mail or319-583=
-0194
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:19:57 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Wrecksduke@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: KC Auction II - Central California
> Message-ID: <970612151948_172456674@emout10.mail.aol.com>
>
> There are still about 45 or so horses left to be adopted out of the 105=
that
> went to auction last Saturday.
>
> There are 14 yearlings - all born after the herd was rescued. These =
probably
> show the most promise. The 2 year olds and up are small/stunted. I =
was told
> some of the 2 year olds were just skin and bones when they were picked =
up.
> One thing for sure, these horses are tough.
>
> If size is not too big a concern or registration, you may find a nice =
horse
> there AND help to rescue one at the same time. I myself am struggling =
with
> whether to plop down $500 minimum bid for a yearling that is not able =
to be
> registered. (I know that its a purebred arab, so...... who cares what =
others
> think. Besides, I know of at LEAST one successful endurance horse that=
is
> registered as a Grade - right Kim?) I could get a nicely bred, yearlin=
g with
> papers for less.... but at the end of the day, it costs the same to fee=
d and
> keep.... so what's a $100 or so more dollars.
>
> Here's you chance to do some good and at least get a nice trail horse. =
The
> auction starts at 9:00 on Saturday, June 14, at the Kern County Fairgro=
unds
> in Bakersfield. From the 99 freeway, exit Ming Avenue and head East =
for
> about 5? miles. Cross Chester Avenue and the fairgrounds will be on =
your
> left hand side.
>
> Please come help if you can. The fate of those remaining after Saturda=
y is
> unkown.
>
> Let me know if you are going and if you want some info on the horses
> remaining. There are a few registered 7-8 year olds left.
>
> Melody -- in SoCal
> Wrecksduke@aol.com
> (800) 999-9098 x 4597 work
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:58:08 -0700
> From: nevadaghostridr@webtv.net (L Eisele)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Becky's daughter
> Message-Id: <199706121958.MAA05571@mailtod-103.bryant.webtv.net>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=3DUS-ASCII
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT
>
> Thanks Terry, for the update, just wanted to say when I read the
> post I was mortified and thank God Katie and horse are OK, best wishes
> Katie, Linda & Allen
>
> Linda Eisele & Sareei and
> hubby, Allen and the General nevadaghostridr@webt=
v.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:57:45 -0400
> From: Kevin & Diane <"safehavn@fast.net"@fast.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Ride Cancellation [NE]
> Message-Id: <199706122159.RAA20291@post1.fast.net>
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>
> It is with great regret that we must cancel the Bucks County Fall
> Festival 25/50 scheduled for Sept. 14, 1997 at the Bucks County Horse
> Park near Quakertown, PA. Due to housing construction along the main
> loops, we have temporarily lost a significant amount of trail. Rather
> than do a patchwork quilt that would irritate and confuse riders, we
> feel it is in everyone's best interest to delay this ride until next
> year.
>
> Thank you for your understanding.
>
> Diane Nelson
> Ride Manager
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:14:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: karen Clanin <kclanin@fix.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: puzzling health problem
> Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970612150622.089704b2@fix.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> In mid April we attended the Shine & Shine IV ride in San Jose =
area,
> we had a mild warm rain Friday night, horses had rain coats on, did not=
get
> wet under blankets. My 4 year old gelding coughed a few times at the
> beginning of the ride, I pulled him at the vet check (for 25 miler). =
He'd
> never done this before. Upon returning home the following is his story=
.
>
> Started on Monday with a clear nasal discharge and an occasiona=
l
> cough, temp normal, appetite normal, general attitide normal. Vet felt=
it
> might be a slight allergy, so long as no temp and otherwise normal he
> advised giving him a week or so to see.
> Ten days later, no change. We put him on SMZ 2x a day for 10 =
days.
> In the last couple of days of this 10 day medication we began to see
> (white/greenish/yellowish) colored nasal discharge on occasion. Otherw=
ise,
> no change.
> Changed med to two different antiobiotics that work well in
> conjunction together, one was penicillin. After three doses (2x a day)=
all
> 4 legs were stocked up. No change in routine to give a cause so we ass=
umed
> it was an allergic reaction to one of the new meds, pulled the pen and =
after
> 2 days legs were normal (btw, leg fill did not go down when turned out =
or
> lounged). Continued the other med for a full 7 days. No change.
> Vet then scoped his throat, pharengitis but whether due to coug=
hing
> or coughing due to pharengitis can not be determined, however this is =
NOT
> the source of other symptoms. Cough can ge induced by palpation of
> throatlatch area. Vet also felt sure it was a guteral pouch infection =
but
> opened pouches and found them clean. Lungs are clear. Vet is totally
> stumped for cause/diagnosis.
> Decided to put him on 10 days of 2 cc orally 1x a day of steroi=
d
> (dexamethazone) for two reasons, one is to see if it is allergy related=
and
> other is to lower his immune system so if it is a lurking infection it =
will
> get 'hot' and we will at least find it.
> We are now at the end of this 10 days of steroid with no change=
--
> for better or worse. Still no temp, still normal in all other respects=
.
> Vet is still totally stumped. However, since our daughters hor=
se
> that has not been in contact with him (lives the other end of town from=
us)
> since the ride, and actually was never in direct contact with him at =
the
> ride, as of Monday has started with like symptoms, so vet now calles =
this
> the "Hooter Disease". BTW, our other two horses have not shown any sim=
ilar
> symptoms (8 year mare and 27 year gelding).
> We are contemplating further diagnostic measures which include
> scoping again, cultures of the guteral pouchs, xraying the head to see =
if
> there are any fluid pockets.
>
> Questions:
> 1) has any other horse(s) that attended this ride come down =
with
> anything similar?
> 2) do any of the veterinarians on the list have any suggestion=
s?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Karen Clanin
> Atascadero, CA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: karen Clanin <kclanin@fix.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: puzzling health problem adendum
> Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970612155040.091fc446@fix.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> I forgot to mention that blood work on this horse is normal.
>
> Karen
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:48:00 -0700
> From: Jessica Tuteur <jessicat@napanet.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Natural Balance Clinic CA
> Message-Id: <199706122248.PAA25325@sam.napanet.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> There is a Natural Balance clinic this weekend June 14 in Pleasanton, =
CA put
> on by Gene Ovnicek (thou "founder" of the natural balance trim and worl=
d
> racing plate stuff you all have been talking about).
>
> If you are interested in attending call Judie Brown 510-828-0459
>
> The cost is $35.00
>
> Jessica
> *****************************************************************
> Jessica Tuteur
> J-M Ranch
> 1393 Green Valley Rd.
> Napa, CA 94558
> (707) 258-1937 tel & fax
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 18:14:14 -0500
> From: Darolyn Butler <darolyn@swbell.net>
> To: "ridecamp-d@endurance.net" <ridecamp-d@endurance.net>
> Subject: Backyard Racehorse
> Message-ID: <33A082C5.11E5D1B6@swbell.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1
>
> Hi.....Does anyone know how to reach Janet Del Castillo, author of
> Backyard Race horse...either e mail, address or phone. Need to talk
> with her right away. Thanks..
> Darolyn Butler (281) 446 7232
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:37:52 -0400 (EDT)
> From: AliFarr@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Rude Riders
> Message-ID: <970612193748_-194463796@emout13.mail.aol.com>
>
> Kirsten wrote:
> > I got the same impression on the rides that I actually rode myself. =
At my
> > first one I had an overly excited 50 miler yell at me "Get your horse=
s butt
> > out of the way" - in a part of the trail where there was only room =
for one
> > horse at a time.
>
> Rude people can usually be treated the same way you treat a three year =
old.
> Don't get mad, you're the grownup. A sweet smile and the reply " As =
soon as
> you ask nicely." will generally remind rude adults that they are acting=
like
> three year olds.
>
> The other side of the story - we had several 50 milers come up behind =
us on a
> one horse trail at Mt. Laguna. We said we'd get out of their way as =
soon as
> safe, they said thank you, we did, they rode by and a good time was had=
by
> all. The rude ones are vastly outnumbered by the nice ones. I vow to
> remember the good and not the bad.
>
> Alison Farrin
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 18:56:04 -0500 (CDT)
> From: barker@ionet.net (Bill and Carol Barker)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Ride & Tie Web Site
> Message-Id: <199706122356.SAA17686@mail.ionet.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> The Ride and Tie organization has a web site at www.rideandtie.com (or
> something like that). I found it by doing a Search. My husband intend=
s to
> do the Ride and Tie at Poetry, TX in September so I looked it up for =
more
> information. There is an email address and the people were very respon=
sive.
> They also have a schedule of upcoming events.
>
> Carol and GoGo Dancer
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:28:48 -0700
> From: DreamWeaver <karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Ride & Tie Web Site
> Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970612172848.0069e908@mail.greatbasin.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> At 06:56 PM 6/12/97 -0500, you wrote:
> >The Ride and Tie organization has a web site at www.rideandtie.com (or
>
>
> Here is the correct URL:
>
> http://www.rideandtie.org
>
>
> This one has the 97 schedule of events:
>
>
> http://www.rideandtie.org/schedule.html
>
>
> Happy Trails,
>
> Karen
> in Gardnerville
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 16:12:48 -0700
> From: Rod and Lori Rieth <rlrieth@famrc.org>
> To: ridecamp-d@endurance.net
> Subject: Wanted: advice on saddles
> Message-ID: <33A08270.1759@famrc.org>
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>
> Could anyone please give me some advice on what saddle to buy for
> general trail riding. I thought those who do endurance riding would =
be
> able to recommend saddles comfortable to the rider and the horse. I
> have been looking online at the "Sports Saddles". Is there one brand
> that shines? I am wondering whether to buy two saddles; one for jumpin=
g
> clinics and one for trail riding. I was interested in the Ortho-Flex
> Stitch-down but for the price of it ($2000) I could have a used all
> purpose and a S.S. What to do??? Please advise... Reply here or
> privately : rlrieth@famrc.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:03:29 -0500
> From: Mike Maul <mmaul@micro.ti.com>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Ridecalendar updated for July Endurance News
> Message-ID: <33A09C61.1B85@micro.ti.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
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>
> The endurance ride calendar has been updated to reflect the July
> Endurance News.
>
> There are no new cancelations listed this month.
>
> As always - typos/errors are the sole responsibility of Russ and Mike.
> This calendar is not offically supported by the AERC.
>
> Please check the calendar for errors and let me know by e-mail
> if changes needed.
>
> Mike
> mmaul@micro.ti.com
> Houston, TX
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:45:49 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Christopher Fielding <fielding@husc.harvard.edu>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: vet secretaries and P & R people
> Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.970612213828.12932A-100000@login2.fas.harvar=
d.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII
>
> I was curious if anyone knew how one could go about volunteering
> for being a vet secretary or a P & R person at endurance races. I have
> ridden in a couple of endurance races but am home for the summer from
> college and since I don't have a horse I would love to volunteer at som=
e
> races. If anyone could offer some advice or point me in the right
> direction I would really appreciate it.
>
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Langdon Fielding
> fielding@fas.harvard.edu
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 23:12:44 -0400
> From: loomis.102@ohio-state.edu (Shannon Loomis)
> To: endurance@moscow.com
> Subject: Re: natural trim,plugged ducts
> Message-Id: <199706130310.XAA07242@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> > I have read several times that an over looked cause for stumbling =
is
> >plugged tear ducts.....OK, I have no idea why this would influence
> >stumbling...can anyone enlighten me?
>
> hello,
>
> Star has been diagnosed with plugged nasolacrimal (tear) ducts. They =
cause
> him to have a bald face if the dust and flies are bad and I don't keep =
his
> face clean, but have no effect on his eyesight whatsoever. He doesn't
> stumble or squint or show any problems. I do make sure he has a fly =
fringe
> on when he goes out because the extra moisture attracts bugs, but beyon=
d
> that, I can't say that blocked ducts have been a problem for him.
> Certainly not stumbling.
>
> Shannon Loomis and Quail Meadow Star
>
> ps - my farrier thinks the 4-point trim is a bunch of hooey. Why would=
you
> expect the hoof to support weight on only 4 points? Use the entire wal=
l
> and spread out the weight.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 97 07:56:49 UT
> From: "Di Kajar" <Murrawonda@msn.com>
> To: Ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Info on saddle
> Message-Id: <UPMAIL06.199706130758320345@msn.com>
>
> Hi to everybody,
>
> I have been given a saddle to try and was wondering if anyone out there=
may
> have some comments on it. It was made in England but purchased in Amer=
ica.
> The lady who bought it for me says a lot of the riders in the Tevis Cup=
ride
> in them (but this may not be true).
>
> Looks to be made by the 'Gold Label Saddlery' and the model is called =
> 'Crusader'. Looks fairly comfortable (padded seat and all), plenty of =
dees
> for attaching things but one thing puzzled me and that is why the girth=
points
>
> are so short and actually under the flaps of the saddle - personal pref=
erence
> is long girth points and less bulk under my legs but any comments will =
be
> appreciated. If anyone has ridden or knows of anyone who has ridden =
in this
> saddle please feel free to input. My preference in a saddle is for the=
horse
> to be comfortable and I must admit I enjoy a little comfort myself.
>
> I generally ride in an Australian military saddle - swivel pads, long =
girth
> points, took a long time to get comfortable in it but now I wouldn't =
pass it
> up. One of my mares cannot tolerate this saddle and I use the Wintec =
Pro 2000
>
> endurance saddle on her manufactured here in Australia by Bates Saddler=
y. I
> also do a lot of work at home in a good old fashioned Stock Saddle - =
very
> heavy though and not that practical for endurance riding in.
>
> Looking forward to some input
> Di Kajar
> Murrawonda Arabian Stud
> Mount Pleasant, South Australia
> AUSTRALIA
> <Murrawonda@msn.com>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 07:34:45 -0400 (EDT)
> From: RICMARC@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Saddle Rigging Question
> Message-ID: <970613073445_-1663931552@emout03.mail.aol.com>
>
> This is what I got so far on the Big Horn saddle
>
> there by Bob Marshall in Tenn.
>
> Sold by Genie Stewart Spears Saddleworks Co.
>
> No address the co is supposed to be on line
>
> I'm waiting to hear from three more riders??
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: 13 Jun 97 09:25:45 EDT
> From: George deLong <71234.3361@CompuServe.COM>
> To: reader <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: timberon accomodations
> Message-ID: <970613132544_71234.3361_GHL132-1@CompuServe.COM>
>
> Casa Sacramento offers affordable accomodations (25 to 60 per night) =
a short
> walk from the base camp.
>
> for info or reservations contact Kevin or Shantel Keune....505-987-2201
> P.O. Box 92, Timberon, NM. 88350
>
> --------------------------------
> End of ridecamp-d Digest V97 Issue #395
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