ridecamp@endurance.net: RE: Refunds

RE: Refunds

Mike Sofen (a-miksof@MICROSOFT.com)
Fri, 30 May 1997 08:08:57 -0700

What a remarkable (and commendable) attitude! Not only do I agree
completely, the notion of pouring event-generated money back into "the
system" is an outstanding mechanism for enhancing and furthering the
sport, AND ensuring that future riders will have someplace to ride...uh,
that is, assuming they don't replace the trails with a new interstate
freeway... :-)

Mike Sofen
Seattle, WA

> >
> >How many of us drive 6 or 8 hours to a ride, take a day off from
> work,
> >etc.... to just wimp out for no good reason once we get there?? *Not
> many* -
> >no one I know anyway. I mean really, when I go to a ride there are
> very few
> >things that are going to keep me from riding - *esp* if I've already
> paid a
> >deposit or the entire fee.....and those things are going to be
> legitimate
> >reasons.
> >
> >I'm on the side of offering refunds - however, no refund would not
> cause me
> >to boycott a ride.
> >
> >Tina - who hasn't managed a ride and may change her tune when does
> :-)
> >hickst@nichols.com
>
> Tina is right. It cost more to get to a ride than the fee for the
> ride!
> Most people will ride rain or shine. In the Southeast region you will
> start out rides in absolutely miserable weather. Starting out a 100
> mile
> ride in 40 degrees and rain in the morning turnig to 30 degrees and
> cold
> drizzle by night 9 PM - been there, done that, got the T-shirt to
> prove it
> (and top tenned to boot). No, in my experience it is not the 50 and
> 100
> milers that drive for hours to do the ride that are the ones that
> decide
> not to ride at a whim.
>
> The people that tend to be the problem are the people that drive an
> hour
> and plan on doing the 25. These people should know what the local
> forcast
> is before the arrive - since they just live doen the road. They take
> up
> camping space, they are fed (usually on Friday night), they take
> advantage
> of the donuts, rolls and coffe on Saturday. By providing a full
> refund,
> the remainder of the riders are subsidizing these riders.
>
> I believe that riders that cannot start should get some refund (they
> still
> should pay for the services they use such as food). But riders that
> will
> not start, is a different issue. The rest of us are paying for these
> fokes.
>
> On my rides any "profits" are donated to local trial clubs for the
> imporvemnt of horse trails, building camping facilities, etc. in the
> area
> the ride is being given. The profits go to investing into the trails
> for
> future rides and for all riders to enjoy. By subsidizing those riders
> that
> will not start (note I said will not rather than can not) we are all
> losing.
>
> I believe in subsidizing junior riders not dead beats!
>
> Flame away.
>
> Truman
>
>
>
> Truman Prevatt
> Mystic "The Horse form Hell" Storm with a lille hellion on the way
> Danson "Deamon in Training" Flame
> Sarasota, FL
>

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