ridecamp@endurance.net: Re: Arabian Mane length........

Re: Arabian Mane length........

Becky (hrt0632@tsufl.edu)
Tue, 20 May 1997 20:09:32 -0500

ridecamp-d-request@endurance.net wrote:
>
> ------------------------------
>
> ridecamp-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 350
>
> Today's Topics:
> Tule Blues, a view from the back
> Re: Arabian/dressage mane length
> Re: Thumps and the cause/treatment...
> Sport Saddle for Sale
> endurance prospect questions
> Re: PHF
> Re: natural fly spray
> Re: Vaccinations and Sarcoids
> Re: Vaccinations
> Re: conformation
> Re: Kicking problem improved
> Make a Wish Foundation
> Re: Biltmore Ride
> Lameness Criteria in Endurance
> Choosing an Endurance Horse
> Re: Lameness Criteria in Endurance
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 11:12:56 -0700
> From: Becky Hackworth <bechack@flash.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Tule Blues, a view from the back
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> Here it is Tuesday morning. I finally have had time to mull over the
> weekend. It started on Thursday, when riding buddy Charla ended up pulling,
> unable to make this ride. I was depressed. Should I go without her? YUP.
> Heather and I will just have to go it alone. But you are never alone with
> ridecamp! There are so many people from ridecamp that I now know, not just
> sort of recognize from being in a check in line with, or ride along with for
> 2 or 3 miles. These are people I have shared saddle fit questions, to
> training questions. Trailer preferences, favorite horse storries from
> childhood. These are FRIENDS.
>
> So I relaxed Thursday evening, instead of packing. Friday morning, I let my
> body tell me when to get up instead of setting the alarm. Knew I wasn't
> going to get much sleep Friday night. (boy was I right) Daughter Heather
> and I packed slowly. Heather seemed to be in a hurry and beginning to
> stress. I told her, it's only 2 hours away, the vetting doesn't start until
> 2, and it's only 8:15. We have plenty of time.
>
> I have bought a new used camper, but am in the process of rebuilding the
> corners for the jacks (learned something new) so opted to "tent it" since we
> were in no danger of freezing to death. The problem with going from one
> camper to a pile in the garage waiting for the new camper is all the little
> stuff you have to think of and pack. Like the spare toothbrush/toothpaste.
> The salt and sugar, the COFFEE. These things normally "live" in my camper.
> Boy, what motivation to go finish the new camper! Load the camper to the
> truck, hook up the trailer and go is a whole lot easier!
>
> Get to the ride in plenty of time, vet early with no line :-) All A's for
> both horses. Gina picking at her food, not drinking (what's new)
> Annie(Heather's horse) eating and drinking up a storm ( 3 flat back buckets
> of water, and 3 hay nets full of hay, along with 6 lbs of pellets. This is
> before the ride. At the check-in office, there are already rumblings of
> lets get this ride started EARLY to beat the heat tomorrow! LOTS of support
> for this one. This was a 75-50-25. At the ride meeting, it was agreed to
> start at 5, 5:30 and 6. A cheer went up. All went well until I went to
> bed. You forget how much noise there is in camp with 100 strange horses,
> and no camper to muffle the sounds. I was finally just dosing off and
> someone decided to run between my tent and the camper next door. She triped
> on the rope holding the tent up and I thought it was all going to come
> crashing down. After my heart stopped racing, I did finally dosed off, but
> not for long. The 30 some odd corrals were way too close to the tent.
> There was kicking and squeeling all night long.
>
> Somehow I was able to keep my eyes open the next morning. The adrenalyn I
> guess. This was only our 2nd 50 attempt. Got tacked up fine, no tempers
> flaring from Mom or kid. Horses behaving. Walked around. Got off to a
> nice start, no "pack" of horses. Then, Heather is having trouble with
> Annie, Annie just wants to get going. We are holding them back due to the
> length of the ride(still new to us). Now Heather is oddly positioned on the
> saddle. Yes, we have to stop to tighten the cinch. A LOT. Finally able to
> get back on the horses. The calm horses now getting very impatient as 10 or
> so horses pass us duing this mess. At least we found a wide spot to stop.
> HAVE I MENTIONED I HATE TO GET OFF FOR ANYTHING EXCEPT VET CHECKS. Tack
> adjustments shouldn't happen! This is all in the first mile!
>
> Just as we get back on there is a lot of commotion ahead. LOOSE HORSE.
> Great. We crest the hill. No horse in sight, just a rider, uninjured,
> walking after the horse. I felt guilty going on....
>
> Now things settle in to getting on down the trail. We pass a few, get
> passed by a few. Nothing unusual here. The trail footing is a little hard,
> but no ruts over undulating hills. This ride would have been real pretty,
> but there were NO TREES.
>
> About 10 miles out or so, Susie Kelly is riding toward us. Now, I don't
> remember anywhere on this loop where we double back, and Susie is doing the
> 75. Yes, Susie is lost. She continuse to ride away, trying to find out
> where she went wrong. We get to Vet check #1, Gina even starts to drink a
> little. Annie is doing well. Heather is very good at the whole
> vet/check/rest/pee routine. I don't need to check on her at all.
>
> Leave Vet#1, and the group is starting to space out a lot. In fact we
> didn't see anything but hoof prints for over an hour. Trail is still well
> marked. There are fewer ribbons in some areas, but still ok.
>
> Had wanted to do a fast morning, but ended up getting in to Vet #2 at 10:10.
> About 1 hour later than I really wanted. Oh well, still had plenty of fime
> to finish slowly.
>
> All morning 'till now, it was cloudy, raining(spitting) at us, lightening
> off in the distance. Perfect weather for a ride. Now we are leaving lunch,
> and the sun comes out. It is muggy, and really getting hot. NEED TO PACK
> MORE WATER. To late to go back for more now.
>
> First water stop after lunch. Horses drink well. We drink. Sponge the
> horses down. All going well. Then we start to get hotter and more tired.
> The horses are getting tired. The counterclockwise loop to the right never
> seems to make that turn to the left! It just went on and on and on...we
> finally turn left and have a huge hill to climb back up ( 3 miles long! )
> AND THERE ARE NO TREES! 10 minutes under a tree would have made a huge
> difference. There was no moving air in that canyon either. Just 100
> degrees, now out of water, no clouds, and no trees! Gina is breathing hard.
> I actually get off and walk for a long time, trying to keep Gina going. She
> seems to know, to trust that it will get better. She follows me without a
> lead. Her tongue is draging.
>
> We FINALLY circle back to that water stop, but they are out of people water.
> My mouth has been cotton for over and hour. If there had been a horse
> trailer there Gina and I would have gladly quit! 5 mile to the next vet
> check. 5 MILES. I don't know about this. I truly begin to question my
> sanity. Heather is doing very well. No crying. No real complaining. We
> are both miserable. We decide to pull at the vet check. We can't even see
> it yet, and I am beginning to wonder if we ever will. There are clouds off
> over the mountains. I pray they will come and cover the sun and give us a
> break!
>
> Vet check # 3. Heather and I have been holding hands for strength off and
> on for the last 2 miles, thinking we have given this a real good try! We
> just went too slow for the 1st 1/2. Live and learn. The horses drink and
> drink and drink. Then they start to eat. I left Gina unattended at the
> water to go find the people water. IT WAS COLD TOO. After 3 glasses of
> water and 1 of gatorade, I sat on the picnic bench. Someone is asking me
> for a Vet card. What do you mean she's at 14????? Vet checks out Gina.
> Vet's assistant trots her out for me, FIT TO CONTINUE?!?! Who, us? You
> must be high. There is no trailer waiting for us, and there are still
> people behind us!!! What do you mean she got all A's. Annie got A+'s.
> (damn horses. Can't quite now!) Vet keeps commenting on how good Annie looks!
>
> Drag myself back on the horse. At least I didn't need a crane. And off we
> go for the last 10 miles. It starts off going away from base camp and the
> horses know it. Hard to make that turn for the last loop. Horses seem a
> little perkier. Able to trot some. CLOUDS. Last water stop. only 5 mile
> to go. Horses know it. We canter most of the last strech. Horses are
> feeling MUCH BETTER NOW. I feel better. We can see camp again. I almost
> start to cry! Heather is smiling.
>
> I wanted to let the horses relax for a while befor final vet, but they are
> anxious to finish up the 50's, we are ALMOST last. Ride time of 11:15. I
> was actually able to trot out my own horse. Good scores. No problems.
> GOOD RIDE.
>
> Awards: Beautiful etched mugs. Very nice. Beginning to recognize most of
> these people. Cheering for most for getting through this one.
>
> Then Heather gets best conditioned Junior. Ok, so Annie did. Boy did that
> make her day! Mom was sure proud.
>
> Lessons:
> 1...Bring MORE water.
>
> 2. Go ahead and go a little faster in the cool to beat the heat.
>
> 3. These horses are amazing.
>
> 4. I love the people in this sport! Nothing but support from the
> volunteers and friends back in camp. Thank you all.
>
> Happy Trails to all.
> Becky&Gina 2 50's (and 500 miles LD base)
> Heather and Annie 2 50's (and 200 miles LD)
>
> Thanks to all. Sorry this was so long.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:31:34 -0400 (EDT)
> From: NagsRMe@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Arabian/dressage mane length
> Message-ID: <970520153133_-1196937153@emout06.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 97-05-20 02:07:48 EDT, you write:
>
> << ....but if you're going to "do"
> dressage, it looks *much* nicer to also give your horse a short,
> one-inch or so bridle path so that he doesn't scream "Arab alert! Arab
> alert! Early '80s halter refugee!" <vbg> every time he enters the
> arena. >>
>
> Hi Lisa, had to laugh at your post!!! I've had show Arabs and Saddlebreds.
> I'm into dressage and now endurance. Last year when I went to a four day
> long USDF dressage camp with FEI level instructors, I debated for days as to
> whether or not to pull Henry, my Saddlebred geldings' beautiful, long flaxen
> mane. I just didn't want to stand out in the midst of all those
> warmbloods!!!! So, off went the mane! Alas, the minute I entered the ring
> for my first private lesson, the German FEI level instructor asked, "Is that
> a Saddlebred?" I said in my meekest voice, "Yes." and waited for the raised
> eyebrows. Instead she went on and on about how much she loved Saddlebreds
> and had owned two straight out of the show ring (one was a nationally
> recognized 5-gaited mare) and had taken one to the Grand Prix level and one
> to FEI. We became "teachers pet" and she asked if I knew where she could
> find anymore Saddlebreds around us with my gelding's bloodlines! Tee-hee!
> I haven't shown dressage or participated in any clinics since then and the
> mane is now long and beautiful again. Hard to say what I'd do if I were in
> the presence of the warmbloods again!
>
> Susan Swope
> & "Henry" with the long blond mane!
> Kentucky
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:34:04 -0700
> From: Kim <Aliakey@geocities.com>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Thumps and the cause/treatment...
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> On Mon, 19 May 1997 18:39:28 -0700, Dabney B. Finch"
> <dbflaw@alphainfo.com> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone out there know how to prevent thumps? We're tried no alfalfa,
> > electrolytes, no electrolytes, free choice electrolytes--nothing seems to
> > make any difference! Help!
> >
>
> Thumps (or Synchonous Diaphragmatic Flutter) may be caused by a need for
> electrolyte replenishment (primarily potassium), which you have already
> tried. However, thumps also occurs when there is a deficiency of
> calcium in the blood. There is debate on whether high calcium feeds
> (such as alfalfa) should be avoided, as research has also indicated that
> excess calcium will contribute to this condition. Moderation is the
> key... if you do not have the resources to determine the Ca content of
> your horse's diet, send me the type of feed(s), weight fed each day, and
> stage of maturity of the hay and I'll e-mail you the "projected" results
> based on NRC findings. It would be more accurate with an actual
> analysis of your hay, etc... but unfortunately, we all just don't have
> the labs we want ;-).
>
> I have also listed other potential contributers to SDF below:
>
> - Excess or deficiency of calcium.
> - Scar tissue from pnuemonia or pleuritis may have caused alterations to
> the phrenic nerve, which has the POTENTIAL to cause chronic SDF.
> - Lasix (furosemide) administration (which is a drug usually used with
> "bleeders" on the racetrack) may induce a loss of electrolytes, which
> could result in thumps.
> - Blister beetle ingestion.
> - Some horses under stress or who are lactation may also develop thumps
> due to the decrease in plasma calcium concentration.
>
> A creatinine clearance test can determine if your horse's electrolyte
> concentrations in the blood are off (samples taken from serum and
> urine)... contact your vet to do this if you want.
>
> If you need anymore info., send me email and I'll dig through my
> "library" of research papers - I know I filed SDF somewhere ;->. Also
> email me with your feed info. if needed.
>
> Hope it helps!
>
> Kim (and 'Lee)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:58:23 EDT
> From: toriandsteve@juno.com (Victoria A Thompson)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Sport Saddle for Sale
> Message-ID: <19970520.141816.9974.0.ToriandSteve@juno.com>
>
> FOE SALE:
>
> Sport saddle
> 15 1/2 " seat
> round skirt
> about 1 1/2 years old
> good condition
> $550 or best offer
>
> contact:
> PAM TURNER
> email - cowboyup@internetmci.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:35:22 -0600
> From: Jeff & Bambi Forbes <forbes@vail.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: endurance prospect questions
> Message-ID: <3382272A.7D5B@vail.net>
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> Hello after a long lurk and a lot of catching up on all the mail since I
> can't read it every day!
>
> I have a few questions on searching for a perfect endurance horse. (just
> kidding - nobody's perfect)
>
> 1. Gray hair color - while gray may be good for the heat, what about
> melanoma I've heard about that seems to predominate in gray (white as
> they age) horses, even the ones with black skin?
>
> 2. I shared more than half my life with a half Arab (by a dumpy grade
> mare and an awesome Arabian stallion) and he was an amazing little guy.
> I watched him be born and watched him die 24 years later, and now would
> like to start another foal and get into endurance when s/he's old
> enough. We have a QH mare (gray!) with an absolutely great disposition
> and the heart of an endurance horse (wants to go and go and go) and I'm
> thinking of breeding her to an Arabian. Only problem: she has a slightly
> turned in front foot, probably starting in the pastern. It doesn't seem
> to affect her at all, even after many miles. Maybe this is a totally
> absurd plan, but does anyone know if this sort of thing would be passed
> down?
>
> 3. If I decide to breed her, does anyone know of a specific, wonderful,
> Arabian stallion IN COLORADO (after all that mail, I still don't know
> what and "endurance bloodline" is or if it exists) whose babies are
> straight and strong and nice tempered, and whom YOU would breed your
> mare to? Some recomendations might save me some miles on the truck!
>
> Thank you in advance for any help, and you may E-mail me privately so as
> not to clutter!
>
> Bambi
> Edwards, Colorado
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:15:49 +0100
> From: vuduvet@utah-inter.net (Kimberly Henneman)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: PHF
> Message-Id: <v01520d01afa77e76b50c@[206.107.179.202]>
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>
> >I'm interested in this whole issue, my Mother lost our 20 yr Morgan
> >palomino herd sire to a reaction to a PHF shot, and he had had perfect
> >health his whole life.
> >
> >While I'm at it, what is DPT? I ask because I have adult onset asthma,
> >along with a friend of mine.
> >
> >Thanks for your time...............
> >
> >Helga
> >hblmh@ptd.net
> >Beacon Morgan Horses
> >http://home.ptd.net~hblmh
>
> DPT = diptheria, pertussis, tetanus
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:26:20 +0100
> From: vuduvet@utah-inter.net (Kimberly Henneman)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: natural fly spray
> Message-Id: <v01520d05afa780f34ab1@[206.107.179.201]>
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>
> Don't know if I would give elemental sulfur more than what the horse
> choses. I would stick to vinegar and garlic and use pennyroyal/cedarwood
> oil and citronella externally.
> Kim Henneman, DVM
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:21:48 +0100
> From: vuduvet@utah-inter.net (Kimberly Henneman)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Vaccinations and Sarcoids
> Message-Id: <v01520d03afa77fd10681@[206.107.179.201]>
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>
> To a homeopathic vet, the last thing we would touch a horse with sarcoids
> is vaccines. Those are classic homeopathic warning signals that the immune
> system isn't handling vaccinations well.
> Kim Henneman,DVM
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:19:51 +0100
> From: vuduvet@utah-inter.net (Kimberly Henneman)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Vaccinations
> Message-Id: <v01520d02afa77f64ecee@[206.107.179.201]>
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>
> Way to go Roger...the best way to prevent is to promote health. I only use
> nosodes in animals that I know are healthy and have been previously treated
> with constitutional homeopathic remedies or acupuncture.
> Kim Henneman, DVM
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:24:57 +0100
> From: vuduvet@utah-inter.net (Kimberly Henneman)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: conformation
> Message-Id: <v01520d04afa7805d2748@[206.107.179.201]>
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>
> Make sure you evaluate postural changes vs. conformation. Posture can be
> changed, conformation cannot but many long-term postural problems (pain,
> unbalanced feet, unbalanced teeth) can mimic conformation problems
> (goose-rump, cow hocks, etc). I would recommend a good prepurchase by not
> only a regular veterinarian but by a veterinary chiropractor too. You
> wouldn't believe the things that I find that many regular vets missed.
> Kim Henneman, DVM
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 19:29:30 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Trishmare@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Kicking problem improved
> Message-ID: <970520192915_115073962@emout17.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 97-05-17 22:03:58 EDT, you write:
>
> << However, the crop story has two sides. I
> learned a TTEAM technique from Bobbie Lieberman on the list that has
> been a great tool. You just rub your horse with the crop all over the
> neck and hind end while talking in a reassuring tone. This has lowered
> her anxiety (which prompted the kicking to begin with) in that situation
> and in others. I have to ride through a residential neighborhood to
> get to the trails which means encountering any number of potentially
> fearful boogie monsters (skateboards, lawn equipment, people driving top
> speed with stuff flapping out behind the truck bed etc.) and this
> technique has visably lowered her tension level. >>
>
> I've just begun using this technique on David, who is also an anxiety kicker
> and also has to be occaisionally ridden through a residential area--it seems
> to be working---
>
> Trish & "pretty David"
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 18:44:43 -0500
> From: George McGraw <georgem@ctinc.com>
> To: "'ridecamp@endurance.net'" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Make a Wish Foundation
> Message-ID: <915DC8B7F9A1CF11ACFC00608CB9F95D31A4BA@exchserv.ctinc.com>
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> I hope you will indulge me in this non-endurance post.
>
> I received a letter from the USDF asking for help in fulfilling the
> wish of a terminally ill young man. Craig Sherwood is a 17 year old
> suffering from terminal cancer. His greatest wish is to enter the
> Guinness Book of World Records as the person who collects the most
> business cards. The catch is only one card per company.
> Please send you business card to;
>
> Craig Sherwood
> Make A Wish Foundation
> Atlanta, GA 30356
>
> tks gm
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 19:58:27 -0400
> From: Jim & Julie Capaldi <hosp@mindspring.com>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Biltmore Ride
> Message-ID: <33823A9F.32B8@mindspring.com>
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> Just read your nice post re: the Biltmore Ride. As a professional
> fundraiser, you are to be commended for running what I believe is one of
> the most organized, professional events I have been affiliated with. I
> consider it an honor to be asked to help. Ray Randall and the other
> vets were a vast source of knowledge. I learned so much, considering
> what would be spent on a clinic, that I could have paid YOU for the
> experience! Here's the best of what I learned: the best way to present
> a horse, especially a tired one, is to trot straight to a pre-determined
> spot. Stop dead. Turn your horse, until he is straight and then trot
> back. The torque on a tired leg when twisted around is very dangerous.
> Ken, a sports medicine specialist was awsome. He is close enough for me
> to trailer if I ever need him. I was privy to six vets discussing the
> best treatment for scratches. I was able to ask ANY question and get a
> variety of opinions. WELL DONE ANNE!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:31:01 +1000
> From: "Bruce Overton" <boverton@tpgi.com.au>
> To: "endurance" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Lameness Criteria in Endurance
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> Hi,
> In Niccolai Murphy's post (20/05/97) it seems that in USA there are degrees
> of lameness. Under Australian Rules the horse is either lame or not lame.
> There is no maybe. Where can I find the rules, applied by vets over there,
> for lameness.
> Bruce from Downunder
> Queenslander
> boverton@tpgi.com.au
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:43:32 +1000
> From: "Bruce Overton" <boverton@tpgi.com.au>
> To: "endurance" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Choosing an Endurance Horse
> Message-Id: <199705202355.JAA05711@random.tpgi.com.au>
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> Good-day Mates,
> In my original post on this subject my intention was to indicate IMHO a
> simple criteria for selection (particularly for beginners) of an endurance
> horse. I enjoyed reading the comments from you all; however I still
> believe that using a percentage system as outlined makes a lot of sense.
> If you are looking for a horse, make up your own criteria before you look
> if mine dosen't suit you.
> Happy looking and happy riding. Bruce O
> Bruce from Downunder
> Queenslander
> boverton@tpgi.com.au
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:17:19 -0700
> From: Nicco Murphy and Pat Hlavin <hlurphy@socal.wanet.com>
> To: Bruce Overton <boverton@tpgi.com.au>
> CC: endurance <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Re: Lameness Criteria in Endurance
> Message-ID: <33823F0F.9EA4521B@socal.wanet.com>
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> Bruce Overton wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > In Niccolai Murphy's post (20/05/97) it seems that in USA there are
> > degrees
> > of lameness. Under Australian Rules the horse is either lame or not
> > lame.
> > There is no maybe. Where can I find the rules, applied by vets over
> > there,
> > for lameness.
>
> This is one reason I almost stayed away from endurance as I do, in
> general from any formal sport, since Hal is permanently "lame". i.e. He
> has an irregular gait caused by aysmmetry probably caused by an old
> injury during his track days. Never the less I was encouraged to give it
> a go as the vets supposedly note this sort of thing in the prerace check
> and ensure that it does not become worse. Thus in Hal's case BC is an
> impossibility and in dressage most judges will ring the bell even as we
> trot in at A. It is quite obvious though that he is in no pain.
>
> I suspect a similar problem will rear it's head when we bring our TWH
> mare along one day.
>
> Nicco
> --
> Open the bay door please, Hal.
>
> --------------------------------
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I wouldn't be so worried about "ARAB ALERT" during a clinic, but showing
is a different ball of wax......I am on several mailing lists and the
general concensus among judges/competitors has been to pull it. They all
say it will really enhance the topline. Guess my mare will be kissing it
goodbye come post time...
Becky***

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