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I was curious if anyone has used any of their feeds or other products.
What did you think? Also, anyone that has used their products for an
extended period of time, I would appreciate any comments that you have.
PS. Heat will not degrade salt (lyte cookie recipe). Also, if these
cookies burn easily, cook at a lower temperature for longer i. e. like
jerky.
Thanks.
Tish Stoots
Bozeman, MT
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> ]
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 1997 8:31 AM
> To: ridecamp-d@endurance.net
> Subject: ridecamp-d Digest V97 #342
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> ridecamp-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 342
>
> Today's Topics:
> RE. Arabian Mane Length
> Lyte Cookies!! My recipe :)
> Biltmore Ride Results
> Re: RO Grand Sultan and Becky Hart
> Re: HORSE SPORTS AND RIDING SAFETY ACT OF 1997
> Re: Lyte Cookies!! My recipe :)
> Re:French "Arabians"/endurance bloodlines
> Seeking Info On Bloodlines
> drinking water in trailer
> Donna Snyder-Smith
> Implants
> Re: Implants
> Re: French Arabs
> re:vaccines
> RE: drinking water in trailer
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 19:16:12 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Olympian06@aol.com
> To: Ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: RE. Arabian Mane Length
> Message-ID: <970518191611_-2068317727@emout09.mail.aol.com>
>
> Someone asked about the length of an Arabian mane for Dressage and I
> show
> arabs both with and without long manes in Dressage and if your horse
> is small
> a hunter, pulled mane looks really sharp, and long one really points
> out that
> is IS and Arab and everyone seems to think Arabs aren't really good
> Dressage
> horses. The hunter braids also make the crest of an Arab look larger
> and
> bolder. I don't know.....just my opion and that's what works for
> me!!!!!
>
> Johnna
> Olympian06@aol.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 17:56:09 -0700
> From: DreamWeaver <karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Lyte Cookies!! My recipe :)
> Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970519005609.0067e21c@mail.greatbasin.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Here is my recipe for electrolyte cookies. I have made a few batches
> (experimenting) and the horses appear to like them all. At first they
> weren't sure about them, but now they will practically inhale my hand
> with
> the entire cookie (and they have probably been overdosed this weekend
> on
> electrolytes!) <g>
>
>
> Lyte Cookies ;^)
>
> 2 cups oats (I use crimped oats or barley/mix)
> 3/4 cup grain (I use either LMF or barley)
> 3 cups bran
> 1 cup molasses
> 1 cup water (may vary depending upon altitude)
> 24 1-oz. scoops of Perform'n'Win electrolytes
>
> Mix all the ingredients together. You should have a consistency a
> little
> thinner than play-doh. If it isn't wet or sticky enough, add a little
> more
> water or molasses. Place large spoonfuls on a (greased) cookie sheet.
> Bake
> at 350 for 30-40 minutes. These have a tendancy to burn so keep an
> eye on
> them.
>
> Happy Trails,
>
> Karen
> in Gardnerville
> & Dream Weaver
> & Rocky
> http://www.greatbasin.net/~sportssaddle
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 21:22:45 -0400
> From: J Smith <jansmith@teleplex.net>
> To: ridecamp-d@endurance.net
> Subject: Biltmore Ride Results
> Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970519012245.00677870@teleplex.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I'm sure we're all looking forward to her general info but in the
> meantime I
> told Samm that as she travels home I'll save her some typing this time
> and
> post the list of Biltmore Ride Results from the May 17th 30, 50 & 100
> mile
> rides.
> But first I want to thank all the wonderful people with whom
> we
> spent such a beautiful, if somewhat chillier than normal, North
> Carolina
> weekend. I look forward to visiting, working and riding with as many
> of you
> as possible in the next several months.
>
> The 30 Mile Limited Distance Ride (40 starts; 33
> finishers)
> 1st Dawn Larson, Cummings, GA on Baron time
> 3:21
> 2nd Clare Summers, Anderson, SC Shaleleigh
> 3:42
> 3rd Carol Bracewell, Boone, NC Dream Boy
> 3:42
> 4th & BC Joe Baker, Sanford, FL TBA Touch
> 3:49
> 5th Donald Stepler, Elkton, MD MTA Lara Bey
> 4:01
> 6th Lisa Stepler, Elkton, MD Michie
> 4:01
> 7th Jeanie Hester, Pickens, SC Poncho
> 4:02
> 8th Debbie Yarbrough, Hickory, NC Elijah by Aloba
> 4:04
> 9th Patricia Crane, Dunn, NC Shalimar
> 4:09
> 10th Carol Davies, Dunn, NC
> Squantoeaglessam
> 4:10
> 11th Brandon Davies, Dunn, NC (Junior) Beauregard
> 4:11
> 12th Judith Shrum, Pilot, VA Ace's Rebel
> Delight 4:13
> 13th Gary King, Parksville, KY Independance
> BA
> 4:27
> 14th Barry Riddle, Parksville, KY Smokie
> 4:27
> 15th Elizabeth McCall, Brevard, NC Iggy
> 4:44
> 16th Barbara Oates, Hendersonville, NC Chispa
> 4:47
> 17th Larry Pitts, Parkton, NC Equal
> Justice
> 5:02
> 18th Dottie Steen, Horse Shoe, NC Ansa Chans
> Island 5:02
> 19th Carol Rittenhouse, Reliance, TN Breezy Acre Magic
> 5:03
> 20th Laura Neilson, Newberry, FL Beau
> 5:03
> 21st Debbie Sloan, Louisville, TN Tellico Star
> 5:04
> 22nd Candace Bourne, Auburn, AL Josie
> 5:06
> 23rd Patty Extenhamper, Pilot, VA Music's Magic
> 5:08
> 24th Don Hermansen, Morresville, NC Mike
> 5:23
> 25th Debbie Carman, Elkton, MD Rushcreek Saucy
> 5:36
> 26th Joy Evans, Landenberg, PA Tres Shah
> Raseyna 5:36
> 27th Ann Lane, High Springs, FL Samtina
> 5:48
> 28th Sandy Johnson, Archer, FL Pepper
> 5:48
> 29th Flora Smith, Homer, GA Sakute'
> 5:48
> 30th Missy Whitmire, Gainesville, GA RRA El Miad
> 6:02
> 31st Mark Hornsby, Lillington, NC Geniss
> 6:23
> 32nd Kim Taylor, Lillington, NC Zoriah
> 6:24
> 33rd Cindy Garzone,
> Cajun's Ruby 6:24
>
> The Biltmore 50 Mile Ride (45 starts;
> 35
> finishers)
> 1st & BC Dawn Sanchez, Primm Springs, TN Dance on Air
> 4:33
> 2nd Roxane Ciccone,Micanopy, FL GF Fazeer
> 5:17
> 3rd Thomas Hutchinson, Bethel, ME O'Malley
> 5:17
> 4th Debbie King, Parksville, KY Naibara
> Salona 5:29
> 5th Niki Wall, Hickory, NC
> Sai La
> Vie 5:29
> 6th David Derecola, Indian Head, MD Fancee Farwa
> 5:52
> 7th Jennifer Spalding, Mt. Victoria, MD TF
> Northern Spy
> 5:52
> 8th Sue Mullen, Landrum, SC Huntah
> 5:53
> 9th JoAnn Baker, Sanford, FL
> Nepenthe
> 6:02
> 10th Tamra Schoech, Gravson, GA Popcorn
> 6:02
> 11th Stephanie Muncy, Front Royal, VA Stoneybrook
> Lyric 6:09
> 12th Bonnie Pitts, Parkton, NC
> Dancela
> 6:13
> 13th Debbie Triplett, Georgetown, TN
> 6:21
> 14th Susan Turner, Sweetwater, TN Tessy
> 6:24
> 15th Thomas Isaacs, Watauga, TN Chief
> 6:29
> 16th Buddy Hodges, Hickory, NC Basko
> 6:49
> 17th Sharon Stoll, Boone, NC
> Traveller
> 6:56
> 18th John Schenk, Hickory, NC Blue
> Fire
> 6:56
> 19th Jane Graffam, Westbrook, ME Rvala Sahab
> 6:56
> 20th John Crandell, West River, MD AL Bey
> Sheik
> 7:13
> 21st Willie Chu, Philadelphia, PA Equus
> 7:27
> 22nd Tim Garwood, Reidsville, NC The
> Shaddeh
> 7:27
> 23rd Patty Rickard, Sweetwater, TN
> DelRioBey
> 7:51
> 24th Diane Bickers, Lawrenceburg, KY Pars Turbo
> Gin
> 8:03
> 25th Aven Jeffers, Auburn, AL
> Overlook
> Nuryev 8:06
> 26th Lynn Carlson, Ocala, FL (Junior) WA
> Cinzano
> 8:06
> 27th Joylen Carlson, Ocala, FL Ike
> 8:06
> 28th Anita Carlson, White Oak, GA
> Pavichy
> 8:06
> 29th Scott Denman, Maryville, TN Apache
> 9:13
> 30th Debbie Lashley, Maryville, TN Cherub's Sun
> Shane 9:13
> 31st David McRae, Lillington, NC Frontier
> Saphire
> 9:22
> 32nd Ann Menoff
> 9:23
> 33rd Howard Prichard, Knoxville, TN Reed Tex
> 10:09
> 34th Patricia Harrop, Knoxville, TN Slam The
> Book
> 10:09
> 35th Charles Rose, Martinville, KY GT Tobarra
> 10:19
>
> The Biltmore 100 Mile Ride (54 starts; 32
> finishers)
> 1st Nina Warren, Franklin, TN Jedi
> 9:56
> 2nd & BC Melissa Crane, Franklin, TN Charbiel
> 9:56
> 3rd Steve Rojek, So. Woodstock, VT Hawk
> 10:12
> 4th Dinah Rojek, So.Woodstock, VT Asterix
> 10:12
> 5th Lana Wright, Chesapeake City, MD LLStardom
> 10:34
> 6th Patti Pizzo, Jamison, PA
> 10:42
> 7th Lynn Goleman, Yellow Spring, WV GM Roman Rust
> 10:58
> 8th Glenda Weeks, Grabt, AL
> Furidant
> 11:26
> 9th Kathryn Downs, Jefferson, ME Kasanovia
> 11:26
> 10th-Tie Amanda Taylor, Birchrunville, PA Tuckers Rum
> 11:26
> 10th-Tie Ellen Tully, navesink, NJ Remegwa
> Bahrain
> 11:26
> 12th Debi Gordon, Beallsville, MD Saizahra
> 11:32
> 13th Norma House, Canton, ME Song of
> Shalizar
> 11:38
> 14th Debbie Zanot, Reynoldsville, PA SHJ Ramedi
> 11:40
> 15th Marilyn Horstmyer, Etowah, TN Too Much Fire
> 12:10
> 16th Kathy Brunjes, Bethel, ME Willows
> Rahmaan
> 12:27
> 17th Sharon Browder, Smithfield, VA CP Blitzen
> 12:47
> 18th Teresa Mascaro, Hayes, VA
> Trouble
> 12:53
> 19th Myra Fleming, Ortonbille, MI Niota
> 13:21
> 20th Marian Brewer, Hickory, NC That
> Boy
> 13:33
> 21st Mindy Lawrence, Hickory, NC King Zar
> Worrior
> 13:33
> 22nd Dan Wellings, WEst Union, WV Diamond Chipp
> 13:36
> 23rd Carol Gulley, Shelbyville, TN El
> Leafa
> 13:49
> 24th Betty Baird, Fincastle, VA
> Fakaries
> Shalona 15:30
> 25th Joe Edwards, Raleigh, NC Marco
> 15:33
> 26th Lynn Gilbert, Lexington, VA GM
> Chagall
> 15:33
> 27th Suzanne Guilliom, Waddy, KY Ithra Patron
> 15:33
> 28th Cory Navoy, Winnisquam, NH Corey
> 16:26
> 29th Jean Wonser, Trenton, FL CPF
> Carrera
> 16:26
> 30th Donna Green, Roanoke, VA
> Di-N-Mo
> 18:22
> 31st Frank Farmer, Fincastle, VA Moyle Dudley
> Do-Rite 18:22
> 32nd Irving McNaughton, Sangeville, ME VH Phazon
> 20:16
>
> After a busy and wonderful weekend that was somewhat short on
> sleep
> the typos are most likely due to my numb brain. But if you spot any
> glairing errors or can help me with info that may have been missed
> please
> e-mail me privately so that we can be sure to file AERC and SERA
> records
> correctly.
>
> Thanks again to all for joining us and a special thank you to
> our
> super Ride Manager - Anne Ayala!!!!!
>
> Jan
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 20:00:09 -0700
> From: Steve Shaw <sshaw@pacbell.net>
> To: "ridecamp@endurance.net" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Re: RO Grand Sultan and Becky Hart
> Message-ID: <337FC239.729E@pacbell.net>
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>
> They won the Big Creek 50 mile ride this weekend, in a field of 140
> where only about 75 finished, in heat and humidity, on a new and tough
>
> technical trail. Rio was runner-up for BC.
>
> They are not great, they are unreal.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 18 May 97 21:25:32 -0500
> From: ROBERT J MORRIS <bobmorris@rmci.net>
> To: karen Clanin <kclanin@fix.net>,
> "ridecamp@endurance.net" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Re: HORSE SPORTS AND RIDING SAFETY ACT OF 1997
> Message-ID: <19970519031644250.AAA903@[208.14.164.34]>
>
> -- [ From: ROBERT J MORRIS * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
>
> Karen:
>
> As far as the law , as you presented it to us, reads it is only
> concerned
> with the sale of helmets. I see no requirements on riders or
> management of
> rides.
>
> Bob Morris
> Morris Endurance Enterprises
> Boise, ID
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 21:06:36 -0700
> From: Tracy Stampke <zebella@idt.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Lyte Cookies!! My recipe :)
> Message-ID: <337FD1CC.38FB@mail.idt.net>
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>
> Great idea Karen!
>
> Is this a suitable substitute for giving electolytes at vet checks?
> The
> baking doesn't like, degrade any of the salts or anything does it?
>
> Now I have to go buy grain to make cookies!
>
>
> Tracy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 05:19:46 -0400 (EDT)
> From: AkhalTeke2@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re:French "Arabians"/endurance bloodlines
> Message-ID: <970519051945_2052428085@emout12.mail.aol.com>
>
> Hello all!
>
> "Delurking" just as some others lately, as there are a couple of
> issues which
> really do interest me and tickle me into questions and comments (so
> please
> excuse the length, it's actually a response to several topics).
>
> > Just went and looked at these photos......YUCK! If I wanted a QH,
> I'd
> > go buy one. It's pretty sad when you can't walk into a barn and
> say
> > with 100% certainty "That's an Arabian." A few you could still
> > identify as such, but one had a head that'd be ugly on a
> standardbred,
> > much less an Arab!
> > Ah well, to each their own, but sorry, I think that somewhere
> there's a
> > little extra something in the woodpile.......
> > tracy
>
> Firstly, what does the head of a horse have to do (apart from when
> it's not
> biomechanically functional and sound) with riding the horse and its
> performance, especially in endurance/CTR, or its breed??? That any
> bedouin
> (still having to depend on his horse's performance) would have chosen
> a
> fragile/beautiful headed individual over a common-headed one, when the
> coarse
> looking individual had the better performance data is highly doubtful!
> When
> it comes to survival you choose the Jeep in rough going, not the
> Jaguar
> Coupe....going for beauty is a luxury and could be fatal under such
> circumstances. For this I'll probably get flamed...:-)
>
> Then - I lived for long stretches of times in France, alltogether
> close to 15
> years and have discovered that the French endurance riders are at the
> same
> time highly ruthless and successful. What I never came to think was
> that
> their performance or race arabians were so very atypical. I saw on
> the
> french endurance track crosses of just these racing lines with
> russian arab
> racers (Persik is such a one, and yes he is very expensive and takes
> only a
> set number of mares per year) and the horses worked like clockworks, a
> point
> probably in favour of outcrossing or line-outcrossing. I saw countless
> Arabs
> and TBs first on the racecourse, sprint or short-distance trained, and
> later
> again when either in endurance/CTR or other employs, and the
> "quarterish"
> looks were absolutely gone! Training and feeding does play a large
> role in
> the exterior "looks", especially "muscle-looks". The french breeders
> of
> race-arabs have indeed bred in a streamlined way for this type of
> event, but
> out of training you only remark that the horse is tall, has good bone
> and a
> less refined head. That there also is the possibility that way back a
> couple
> of unknown ancestors or TBs probably can be found in their pedigrees
> is
> nothing what is not the same case for other arabian strains (not all,
> I know
> that, :)).
>
> BUT - I am of one mind here with people who say that selection for the
> racecourse (exclusively) and also selection for short races on top,
> does
> some severe things to the make-up on cellular level as well as on the
> conformational level, when regarded with potential for endurance (and
> not
> *only* for races or short bursts of work) in mind. I read quite some
> researches on this, but wonder whether this group has some newer
> resources.
> What specifically interests me is what that kind of selection does on
> the
> cellular/systematic level, that horses tend to look more like TBs is
> only
> logical. E-mails of people who have recent data at hand (like of the
> last 5
> years) are very welcome! Thanks ahead.
>
> Lastly, I think that whether or not outcross-, in- and linebreeding
> plays a
> role on performance or state of art of a breed's health may be a
> question of
> who's there first - hen or egg?. The outcross/hybrid vigour is a
> proven fact,
> but already with line- and inbreeding the footing isn't anymore so
> sure, or
> is it? There are a couple of breeds with a severely restricted gene
> pool,
> perforce having to be in- and linebred, and there it is quite
> remarkable that
> "fragility" does not only come along with "closed" or "close"
> pedigrees, just
> as often you find this in one group (selected also for looks or a set
> type of
> use) severely and in another, which else is genetically on the same
> sort of
> boat (selected only for vigour and stamina), not at all.
>
> TBs are bred today for roughly 4-5 years (if as much) success on the
> racetrack, their most important breeding/selection qualifiers come
> along when
> they are 3 and 4 years old. At this age noone could judge whether or
> not the
> organism is hardy, apart from the obvious breakdowns (of those which
> are not
> hardy enough to make the racecourses at all). The horses get retired
> to the
> breeding sheds long before any deficiency shows up and get bred to
> recuperate
> the financial engagement. Often - quite often - an unsoundness
> precludes
> further use on the track, but a horse *has* won the most important
> qualifiers
> and now is in high demand!!! This is breeding for speed and speed only
> (as it
> is the foundation of the idea behind the TB), so who could ever expect
> - with
> such a selection - hardiness and other qualities apart from speed?! If
> they
> happen to come along, my impression is that people had a lot of luck.
>
> Several of the closed-studbook (thus genetically restricted) breeds
> who go
> for a selection according to colour or certain looks, face the same
> problem
> of low state of health, *but* there are genetically restricted groups
> where
> the main selective criteria was indeed some sort of demanding employ
> or
> survival of the fittest and *there* you rarely find the same sort of
> fragility! Especially all the genetically very restricted "pockets" of
> wild
> horses in Australia, Africa and Asia have proven this quite beyond any
> doubt,
> but a few human-selected breeds did as well.
>
> So - I wonder whether it's not what we decide to breed for, what we
> mourn as
> a result later...? Other animal breeds can serve as teaching grounds -
> some
> 30 years ago the Danish Dogue was a tall (around 70-75 centimeteres),
> athletic and very healthy dog with an average lifespan of 15+ years, a
> frisky
> dog whom you could take along for days long rides, today it is a giant
> (around 100 centimeters), unhealthy and recumbent type of animal, with
> an
> average lifetime of 8- years (in Europe), which preferably stays put
> in the
> front garden. The difference between then and now is the change of
> breeding
> criteria, you couldn't nowadays get a male of 75 centimeters
> acknowledged as
> a stud dog or win a breed show, even if you greased the judge! Now
> owners/customers start to bicker, because they cannot mentally deal
> with the
> fact, that their beloved pet dies so soon or costs so much in vet
> treatmeant,
> but giants they wanted...
>
> So, should it stay to be viable selective criteria/breeding method for
> a
> closed-studbook or genetically restricted breed to be bred for much
> more than
> conservation of breed and superior health, especially if a selection
> criterium can cull out the healthy individuals? Is the idea of
> breeding
> *only* for health and performance, regardless of looks, colours and
> what we
> think is beautiful, for a closed gene-pool breed, so dumb? Haven't the
> main
> and most important warrior nomad nations breeding enduring horses in
> the past
> taught us just this?
>
> AT
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 19 May 97 07:13:47 EST
> From: "Bonnie Snodgrass" <snodgrab@ncr.disa.mil>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Seeking Info On Bloodlines
> Message-Id: <9704198640.AA864051574@ncr.disa.mil>
>
> Since there's been so much talk about bloodlines I thought I'd
> ask for
> input/info that anyone might be able to give me on the following
> horse's breeding. Via ridecamp I learned about a horse for sale
> and
> went yesterday to take a look at him (5 yr old gelding).
>
> Breeder: Garvin E Tankersley Jr, Keymar Md
>
> Sire: Basksand, by *Bask, out of Alca-Sand who is by Desert Sands
> (by
> *Naborr) and out of Alcandre.
>
> Dam: GT Galicia by *Etiw, who is by PASB Negatiw and out of PASB
> Etna.
> The dam is out of Harmonyhill Gala, by Garaff and out of Shalimar
>
> Ragalia.
>
> The Bask line I'm somewhat familiar with. I was told that Garvin
> Tankersley had some connection with Al Marah and the dam's line
> is of
> their breeding?
>
> I liked the looks of this gelding a lot. He looked like a race
> horse
> to me, with nice sound conformation and he actually has withers!
> If
> anyone can help with background on his family I'd appreciate it.
>
> Bonnie Snodgrass
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 14:20:37 -0500
> From: "Becky Huffman " <hhcc1@htcomp.net>
> To: "ride camp" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: drinking water in trailer
> Message-ID: <19970519120200620.AAC246@BeckyHuffman>
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>
> why O why is there no way for a horse to have water available during a
> trailer drive?
>
> I know some of you brains must have figured a way.
>
> Becky
> Semper Fi & The ShadowRat
> Huffman Horse and Cattle Company
> Fine Endurance Arabians and 'Horned Cows'
> hhcc1@htcomp.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 07:01:14 -0500
> From: "Becky Huffman " <hhcc1@htcomp.net>
> To: "ride camp" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Donna Snyder-Smith
> Message-ID: <19970519120538363.AAA311@BeckyHuffman>
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>
> I am talking to Donna about a Centered Riding Clinic this fall or next
> spring (N.Tex - DFW area)
>
> please e-mail me privately for details.
>
> I'm not looking for any commitments, just let me know if you would be
> interested.
>
> Becky Huffman
> hhcc1@htcomp.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 06:55:20 -0700
> From: lyoness@castlenet.com (Joane Pappas White)
> To: Ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Implants
> Message-Id: <199705190559.FAA17370@ns1.castlenet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Have been reading the questions on implants and just saw an ad in
> Horse and
> Rider for Rugamate(?)--sorry about the spelling-- which is expressly
> marketed for "mares in competition". I read the whole page very
> carefully
> and there were no warnings that the product could violate any drug
> rules.
> Are the rules in Endurance different than those for jumping or
> eventingm (
> the picture in the ad was a horse in a jumping competition)?
>
> Joane
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 09:13:51 -0400
> From: "C.M.Newell" <reshan@deyr.ultranet.com>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Implants
> Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970519131351.0075d188@mail.ultranet.com>
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> At 06:55 AM 5/19/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >Have been reading the questions on implants and just saw an ad in
> Horse and
> >Rider for Rugamate(?)--sorry about the spelling-- which is expressly
> >marketed for "mares in competition". I read the whole page very
> carefully
> >and there were no warnings that the product could violate any drug
> rules.
> >Are the rules in Endurance different than those for jumping or
> eventingm (
> >the picture in the ad was a horse in a jumping competition)?
> >
> Yes. Jumpers (and hunters, for that matter), unless competing
> at FEI
> level, are under the AHSA's "therapeutic substances" rule, which
> allows the
> use of certain medications, including low levels of phenylbutazone or
> flunixin megulamine, and methocarbamol, among others.
> Endurance riding is essentially a "no foreign substances"
> category,
> even though it is not under the jurisdiction of AHSA.
> --CMNewell, DVM
>
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> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 09:28:03 -0400
> From: truman.prevatt@netsrq.com (Truman Prevatt)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: French Arabs
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> >There's a website at http://www.awhitehorse.com/racing/french
> >It has a few pictures, and I agree, they don't look like the same
> breed.
> >
> >
> Given their speed and look there is probably a TB somewhere behind the
> barn. Has anyone tried any of these horses in endurance? What does
> the
> French team ride?
>
> Truman
>
>
>
> Truman Prevatt
> Mystic "The Horse form Hell" Storm with a lille hellion on the way
> Danson "Deamon in Training" Flame
> Sarasota, FL
>
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> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 09:22:21 -0400
> From: truman.prevatt@netsrq.com (Truman Prevatt)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: re:vaccines
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> >Count me among the numbers not vaccinating. I have been using nosodes
> for the
> >past few years since I became a client of Peggy Fleming's. I had a
> little
> >struggle with fear but I got over it...mostly. I have a 2 yr old that
> I got a
> >few months ago that hasn't been vaccinated and I am toying with the
> idea of
> >giving him 1 injection for EWT and rabies (I am in Fl.). I'm not sure
> that it
> >wouldn't be good idea to vaccinate once. (That fear doesn't go far
> does it?)
> >But it helps to hear of others doing the same thing.
> >
> >Donna in Atoona, where the misquitoes rule
>
> I think you can go to extremes either way. Encephalomyelitis will
> kill a
> horse. We have sevral cases a year in the Sarasota/Manatee county
> area.
> Rabies will kill and we have had horses in the Sarasota/Manatee county
> area
> die form rabies. So I believe in vacinating for the killers and
> letting
> the others go may well be the answers - at least down here where the
> state
> bird is the misquitoe and the state animal is the raccoon.
>
>
>
> Truman Prevatt
> Mystic "The Horse form Hell" Storm with a lille hellion on the way
> Danson "Deamon in Training" Flame
> Sarasota, FL
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 06:51:44 -0700
> From: "Mike Sofen (Excell)" <a-miksof@MICROSOFT.com>
> To: "'Becky Huffman '" <hhcc1@htcomp.net>,
> ride camp
> <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: RE: drinking water in trailer
> Message-ID:
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> >
>
> Simply put, water has a tendency to flow downhill, and when underway,
> it
> just rolls right out the back of the trailer. I'm working on a new
> Anti-Downhill water formulae in my laboratory, but it won't be ready
> for
> testing for a while... :-)
>
> Mike Sofen
> Seattle, WA
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Becky Huffman [SMTP:hhcc1@htcomp.net]
> > Sent: Monday, May 12, 1997 12:21 PM
> > To: ride camp
> > Subject: drinking water in trailer
> >
> > why O why is there no way for a horse to have water available during
> a
> > trailer drive?
> >
> > I know some of you brains must have figured a way.
> >
> > Becky
> > Semper Fi & The ShadowRat
> > Huffman Horse and Cattle Company
> > Fine Endurance Arabians and 'Horned Cows'
> > hhcc1@htcomp.net
>
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