Re: Tying up

Tivers@aol.com
Fri, 22 Nov 1996 13:26:51 -0500

In a message dated 96-11-22 03:27:19 EST, you write:

<< What is the difference between the tying up you
see at the beginning of a ride as opposed to tying up that occurrs later in
the ride? >>

Don't know.

>> Also why is it that sometimes walking the horse that has tied up
in some situations seems to help, their gums pinking up and appear better
where in another situation you don't move the horse at all????>>

I think the idea is to find a way to get the horse moving, but that often
means finding a way to get the muscles out of tetany. The sooner you can get
circulation moving through these muscles, the less damage is going to be
done. Too much damage and you get kidney failure, leading to horrific
founder, followed by death.

>> Also why is it that endurance horses tend to be alkalotic (not alcholic:)
as
opposed to acidodic in race horses? The alkolosis, is it respitory or
metabolic alkalosis and what is the physiology behind it?>>

Acidosis comes from the production of lactic acid--high intensity work, which
is not the type of work endurance horses perform. Alkalosis is just the
opposite, the pH of the blood gets too high instead of too low. This happens
most often when the animal is hyperventilating to blow off body
heat--breathing more rapidly than necessary to keep blood (and metabolic)
parameters in equilibrium. Another problem that might occur in endurance
horses is ketosis--from burning other fuels besides carbohydrate in excess.

>And finally (stab in the dark here) does this alkalosis have any correlation
to tying up...the person that hyperventilates (alkalosis) needs to breath
back co2 to balance PH, develops muscle twitching and tremors. Does this
effect the muscles in the horse the same as a human? What about the panter?
These questions have plagued me for a long time and sure would like some
insight.>>

This sounds like an interesting possibility--but the tying up would probably
occur long before clinical alkalosis. I'm not sure about that, though. Susan?

>>It is interesting to note that in some of the older endurance books
they recommend feeding sodium bicarb, which now we've learned is not good.>>

Right. Big mistake. You'll kill an alkalotic horse with bicarb. There still
seems to be an unusual concern amid this group concerning acidosis, though. I
don't think it's a problem.

> Here's lookin back atya.......()()
Linda Eisele & Sareei and ('')\ >>

ti