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Well, guess what? I am! help!
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> From ridecamp-d-request@endurance.net Tue Nov 19 10:56:40 1996
> From: ridecamp-d-request@endurance.net
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 05:22:11 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: ridecamp-d Digest V96 #2
> X-Loop: ridecamp-d@endurance.net
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>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> ridecamp-d Digest Volume 96 : Issue 2
>
> Today's Topics:
> Re: track racing
> Help please?
> Re: thyroid
> Re: River Run 50 (story - long)
> Re: Thyroid Solutions
> Re: unsubcribe
> Re: Shivering Horses
> sold horse
> Re: ridecamp-d Digest V96 #1
> River Run Story
> Horse vacations
> Winter Protection
> Tevis Special
> Arab Cross
> Re: anerobic threshold
> Re: Tevis Special
> Re: Question on Ariats
> Re: Shivering Horses
> Re: River Run 50 (story - long)
> Re: older endurance horses
> missing digests
> Re: anerobic threshold
> Re: River Run 50 (story - long)
> Re: anerobic threshold
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:58:42 -0500
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: track racing
> Message-ID: <961118195840_1150370801@emout02.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 96-11-18 14:02:48 EST, you write:
>
> << About fat- in very long distance races, humans use fat for energy after
> the
> more available sources have been used. I have read that this may be
> why(many) women
> seem to have more stamina than (most ) men. Women carry more fat on them
> than
> men do. Do any of the equine physiology experts know if horses do the same
> thing? (Burn fat for energy when operating a LSD for a very long
> time/distance)-Amy >>
>
>
> There's an old saying among marathoners: "Fat burns on the flame of
> glycogen." There are dozens of studies suggesting that endurance runners do
> better by taking carbohydrates during long races and none suggesting the same
> for fat intake.
>
> ti
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:06:03 +0500
> From: Gwen Dluehosh <dluehosh@vt.edu>
> To: endurance@moscow.com
> Subject: Help please?
> Message-Id: <199611190106.UAA07412@sable.cc.vt.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi, I was wondering if anyone in Colorado could help me out. I am looking
> for a gray stallion named IAS Alysheba- He's about 8 years old and about 15
> hands high or so. I don't know who his owner is but they moved there within
> the last two years or so (I have a yearling filly of his). I am trying to
> find the woman who owns him because I need to get this fill yregistered. I
> bought her with the intention of useing her as a broodmare eventually and
> apparently the lady I bought her from didn't get her registered yet.... If
> you have any idea about how to find theses guys, I would appreciate it. I
> will try to get the name of this person soon. THey are purebred arabs.
> Gwen Dluehosh
> Desert Storm Arabians
> 1156 Hightop Rd, #89
> Blacksburg, VA 24060
> 540/953-1792
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:12:36 -0500
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: thyroid
> Message-ID: <961118201236_1217416613@emout04.mail.aol.com>
>
> Betsy,
>
> You're getting into an area where my knowledge is very limited. The TSH test
> will determine how whell the thyroid gland responds to stimulous. If it
> responds normally, then something else is causing your problems--perhaps a
> zinc deficiency or other nutrient imbalance. I'd go along with your vet for a
> while--she seems to be tuned in.
>
> The thyroid gland, by the way, helps the body determine how fuels, and other
> nutients, are used--and the speed at which they are used.
>
> ti
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:08:39 -0500
> From: RUN4BEAR@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: River Run 50 (story - long)
> Message-ID: <961118200838_1485097432@emout07.mail.aol.com>
>
> Congratulations Tina!!! What a nice way to end the year!!!
>
> Teddy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:23:25 -0500
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Thyroid Solutions
> Message-ID: <961118202323_1485099468@emout07.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 96-11-18 17:29:43 EST, you write:
>
> << To all concerned with thyroid problems or suspected problems,
> contact R.H. (Bob) Douglas, BET Labs, 305 N. Broadway, Lexington, KY
> 40508, 606/273-3036 or fax 606/273-0178. He knows his stuff and can
> run assays (RIA) on your horses in 24 hours and fax the results back
> with interpretation. He did the original research behind his work. He
> can run panels on virtually any endocrine question from T3/T4 to all
> of the repro hormones. Good luck!
> /Bobbie Lieberman
> >>
>
> Thanks, Bobbie--good news.
>
> ti
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:32:59 -0700
> From: Tod Whittemore <HRDOMAIN.BROADWAYPO.TOD@gate.sunquest.com>
> To: GiltMead@aol.com, ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: unsubcribe
> Message-Id: <s290add9.042@gate.sunquest.com>
>
> UNSUBSCIBE
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:14:47 -0500
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Shivering Horses
> Message-ID: <961118201445_738587693@emout08.mail.aol.com>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:54:29 -0500
> From: Ruth Anne Everett <everett@twave.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: sold horse
> Message-Id: <01542913270228@twave.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Thanks to all inquiries regarding my Paint horse listed for sale on
> ridecamp. He has already sold. Good horses sell-regardless of breed.
> Ruth Anne Everett
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:16:57 -0500
> From: Susan Felker <felker@swva.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: ridecamp-d Digest V96 #1
> Message-ID: <32911899.52BC@swva.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> Will the person who has the bed and breakfast who is on the list mind
> e-mailing me privately, if you have time, to let me know how it works to
> have both guests and horses? My husband and I are thinking of turning
> our "empty nest" into a B&B.
>
> Also, Betsy O'Shea asked about thyroid problems in horses. Symptoms for
> hypo- and hyperthyroidism are about the same as in humans--sluggishness,
> weight gain, difficulty conceiving, coarsening of hair sometimes, etc.
> for hypo-. Weight loss, increased fidgets, nervousness, sometimes rapid
> pulse (depending on extent) for hyper-. A lot of people (and some vets)
> think thyroid is a magical cure for pudginess, but it is not. If the
> horse's thyroid levels are normal, don't mess with thyroid
> supplements--they can be dangerous. I once was boarding an older mare
> elsewhere. They decided she was too fat, and without asking me, put her
> on thyroid. When I had her brought home she was a rack of bones and it
> took forever to get weight back on her.
>
> Would you yourself take thyroid if you don't need it? Would this be good
> for your horse?
>
> Blood tests, to be accurate, have to be done repeatedly over a period of
> time, not just once, again as with humans. I have the hypothyroid
> problem and have regular T3/T4 blood tests.
>
> The suggestion to contact R.H. Douglas is an excellent one. There may be
> something there besides a thyroid deficiency. Or it may just be your
> pony is an easy keeper--many are. Just keep your pony fit, and be glad
> you can save on the feed bills!
>
>
> > To all concerned with thyroid problems or suspected problems,
> > contact R.H. (Bob) Douglas, BET Labs, 305 N. Broadway, Lexington, KY
> > 40508, 606/273-3036 or fax 606/273-0178. He knows his stuff and can
> > run assays (RIA) on your horses in 24 hours and fax the results back
> > with interpretation. He did the original research behind his work. He
> > can run panels on virtually any endocrine question from T3/T4 to all
> > of the repro hormones. Good luck!
> > /Bobbie Lieberman
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:12:10 -0500
> > From: NagsRMe@aol.com
> > To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> > Subject: Re: Question on Ariats
> > Message-ID: <961118181208_1452156738@emout03.mail.aol.com>
> >
> > In a message dated 96-11-18 16:43:41 EST, you write:
> >
> > << I have found a new kind of boot that is even MORE
> > comfortable than my Ariats ever were. They are made by "Vasque", and are a
> > hiking boot - made out of gore-tex, they have the quick-lace buckles at the
> > top, and a nice thick sole. They are so comfortable both for riding,
> > jogging and walking, plus give excellent traction on the trail. AND I've
> > ridden in 20 degree weather in the wind and my feet have stayed nice and
> > comfy. They would ha
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:24:38 -0500
> From: Nina Gibson <nlg@esper.com>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: River Run Story
> Message-ID: <32911A66.2D14@esper.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> Since the results were soooo long, I decided to wait on this until my
> typer's cramp let up.
> Way to go Tina! I went in to get the results to post and slyly
> checked to see who won BC and enjoyed watching Tina's reaction.
> The trail was wonderfully marked, the food great and the award
> ceremony was bizarre to say the least. Ride management has a strange
> way of awarding just about everyone there. Sponges, hoof picks, and
> even rubber currycombs were flying through the air!
> I rode all day with my mother. She has had a very bad year. And this
> was only her second ride back after a multitude of ailments. So being a
> good daughter (no laughing, please) I poked along at a slower pace than
> I would have. (Coujur was not thrilled). Mom's horse was acting a
> little odd, so I was somewhat concerned. I think they had a plan.
> Angie McGhee and I were galloping into the finish line, and we had
> decided to try and tie. When along came the "Blue Flame" (MOM!). As
> she blew us off the trail, she yelled "hope you don't have a plan".
> Coujur decided (on his own) to go with her. I tried to change his mind.
> When I pulled back on the reins, one broke. And I yell and tell her
> this. She doesn't even slow down (claims she never heard me, ha!). As
> I cross the finish line (at a good run) I hold up said rein and yell at
> the timer that this is not good. Thank goodness Coujur decided to
> listen or I guess we would still be running around the town of Hahira
> GA.
> To beat all, mom asks me to give her a back massage! I considered
> doing bodily harm, but instead did as she asked.
> Live and learn. Don't trust anyone! Not even the woman who gave
> birth to you. The weird part was I don't know how she got Amir to play
> along and worry me!
> I told her she wasn't going to get me on the next one. I'll do a 100
> in Carolina over Thanksgiving before I'll let her pull the fur over my
> eyes again.
>
> Nina Gibson / Coujur (look we don't have to do a 100, just let me
> run off and leave that crazy woman)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:46:01 -0500
> From: Ruth Anne Everett <everett@twave.net>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Horse vacations
> Message-Id: <02460180970977@twave.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Would like to hear from people who have been on horse vacations. Places that
> you would recommend by having been there. My wife and I have been to
> Ricochet Ridge Ranch and would be more than happy to express opinions on
> this wonderful place! Either e-mail or call 1-704-327-0720. Thanks Mike Everett
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: 18 Nov 96 22:30:40 EST
> From: Connie Field <76055.3073@CompuServe.COM>
> To: endurance <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Subject: Winter Protection
> Message-ID: <961119033039_76055.3073_GHC58-1@CompuServe.COM>
>
> I couldn't stand the temptation. I have to tell you all about the treatment our
> horses got when I was a kid. I grew up on an Indian reservation in South Dakota
> and man! it gets cold there. We rode merrily all summer then when cold weather
> came all the horses in town (not just ours) were ridden out to winter pasture
> and left to fend for themselves for about 6 months. Open prairie to live on
> with wild grass called buffalo grass the staple food. It is about 3-5 inches
> long and curly and very nutrient rich. Then in the spring we trecked out and
> lured them back to a captive life. I am horrified at the thought of it now but
> it worked well and was the normal way of life. My winpy arab shivers and has to
> have a blanket if it gets very cold.
> Connie and the wimpy arab, Spur.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:21:26, -0500
> From: XXDU78A@prodigy.com (MS LOUISE D BURTON)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Tevis Special
> Message-Id: <199611190321.WAA23676@mime4.prodigy.com>
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> I thought the Tevis special was a hoot! We laughed and laughed! We
> watched it with two non-horsey friends and they loved it. It got them
> interested and both said "it looks like fun"! In that manner it served its
> purpose! There is an entire video of the ride (including riders all
> wearing dust masks) available from several years ago.
> Louise Burton
> FA AL BADI+
> MS BERET
> OK
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 21:32:19 CST
> From: Nancy Mitts <MS-MITTS@VM.MSSC.EDU>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Arab Cross
> Message-Id: <961118.214019.CST.MS-MITTS@VM.MSSC.EDU>
>
> Had to put in my 2 cents on Arab crosses.I've been riding a Quarter Horse/
> Welsh Cob cross.I like his strength&substance. He has a lot of good sense,
> doesn't scare easily.I've been breeding him to an Arab mare & the foals
> look great.Will be starting the 3 yr old filly next spring.The foals are
> not near as flighty as the mare. About feeding horses in the trailer, we
> don't usually let ours eat unless it's a LONG trip & we're in a hurry. I've
> heard horses can choke, especially if the trailer has a manger & they can't
> get their head down.Nancy & Racer.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 20:02:05 PST
> From: Joyce Kellenberger <joyce@homer.ca.boeing.com>
> To: RUN4BEAR@aol.com
> Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: anerobic threshold
> Message-Id: <199611190400.UAA03837@mailgate1.boeing.com>
>
> >>
> > Reply:
> >
> > Some years ago Purina delevloped a sweet feed with hig fat content. Fat was
> > the "thing" to try and some did. Of course we did not have the "talkways" we
> > have now, but through the grapevine I remember hearing that riders stopped
> > using it..caused problems which I can't define now, but I believe were
> > similar to what you describe. Perhaps someone out there remembers what
> > happened.
> >
> > Joe Long..if you are lerking, I think you were one who tired it.
> >
> > Teddy
> >
> >
> I'm curious about this Purina sweet feed. Is it similar to the LMF Endurance
> formula? That feed is a sweet feed with about 12% fat, I believe.
>
> joyce
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:58:00 -0600 (CST)
> From: "Lucie A. Hess" <lhess01@mail.coin.missouri.edu>
> To: MS LOUISE D BURTON <XXDU78A@prodigy.com>
> cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Tevis Special
> Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.961118225247.4281B-100000@coinc0>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Unfortunately, I don't get cable so didn't get to see it. BUT people at
> work who are not Horse people saw it and asked me if that is like what I
> do. I said yes, but not 100's yet and nothing that hard. I did tell
> them that's what I did when I went to the rides as an FEI groom, and
> since they saw the program they nodded their heads and now understand. I
> think it was great to get it out to the mass public that way. Now for
> more coverage in the future! By the way, Did someone say it was going
> to be on PBS? I do get that channel.
>
> Lucie Hess
> Columbia, Missouri
> Chief Black Arrow -retired Appy
> Moonhill Dandi -current mount- 7/8 Arab
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, MS LOUISE D BURTON wrote:
>
> > I thought the Tevis special was a hoot! We laughed and laughed! We
> > watched it with two non-horsey friends and they loved it. It got them
> > interested and both said "it looks like fun"! In that manner it served its
> > purpose! There is an entire video of the ride (including riders all
> > wearing dust masks) available from several years ago.
> > Louise Burton
> > FA AL BADI+
> > MS BERET
> > OK
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:54:36 -0800 (PST)
> From: K S Swigart <katswig@deltanet.com>
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Question on Ariats
> Message-ID: <Pine.SCO.3.91.961118214349.28422B-100000@delta1.deltanet.com>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> I have finally had to break down and replace my first pair of Ariats (3
> years later). I wore these things EVERYWHERE, including winter in Moscow
> (Russia, that is, not Idaho).
>
> Like all leather goods, the trick to getting them to last a long time is
> to take care of them properly. As I said, I wore them everywhere,
> through mud, mucking out, water crossings (did the whole Outlaw
> Trail...twice), in the snow and salt, etc.; however, when I got home, I
> cleaned them, oiled them, and waterproofed them (with beeswax).
>
> I even left them on the roof of my car one day and drove off...then
> picked them up later that day on the road out in front of my house (major
> road with atleast 100 cars per hour travelling at 50 mph), cleaned and
> oiled them, and wore them for two more years.
>
> The only problem I had was with the seam over the toe (I had them
> restitched twice and eventually the leather gave out and split). The new
> "Professional" model has reinforcements here (but this model is more
> expensive).
>
> If you have the ones made of the synthetic materials (can't remember what
> the model is called) I have no idea how a) to take care of it, and b) it
> holds up. However, since the instructions that I got with my leather
> Ariats had specific instructions on how to care for the leather (e.g. how
> to dry them properly after they have gotten wet), I assume that these
> same care instructions are provided with the synthetic ones. This is
> just an assumption, however.
>
> I preferred the cut of the earlier models (but that is because they were
> made for feet like mine, rather than people with feet like everybody
> else) as they were wider at the ball of the foot and bigger through the
> instep. But I assume they changed them because most people do not have
> feet like mine.
>
> They are still better than any other riding boot/shoe that I have seen or
> tried. Especially for an endurance rider who spends alot of time
> walking/running in her riding boots.
>
> kat
> Orange County, Calif.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 22:10:22 PST
> From: Joyce Kellenberger <joyce@homer.ca.boeing.com>
> To: Stacy_A_Berger@ccm.sc.intel.com (Stacy A Berger)
> Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: Shivering Horses
> Message-Id: <199611190608.WAA07764@mailgate1.boeing.com>
>
> >
> > Question - sorry if it sounds stupid - when a horse is shivering
> > visibly, does it indicate that the horse is cold?? or does it indicate
> > another problem??
> >
> > Feeling guilty -
> >
> > Stacy
> >
> >
> The November/December issue of Trailblazer that just came out has a couple
> of paragraphs regarding shivering in the article written by Nancy Loving, DVM,
> Winterize Your Horse. Nancy says that on a short term basis, shivering puts
> your horse's muscles to work to generate internal heat to warm the body. If
> allowed to shiver for more than a few hours, it can be exhausting to your horse.
> She suggests feeding more hay during cold, wet spells. Heat is generated by
> the fermentation process that takes place by digesting hay in the large
> intestine. This confirms some recent study I've been doing along the lines
> of nutrition - hay vs. grain/ roughage vs. fat for specific needs.
>
> Anyway, the Trailblazer magazine is excellent this month, as usual.
>
> Joyce
>
> PS. Yes, your horse is cold.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:18:04 -0500
> From: VMAXEPT@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: River Run 50 (story - long)
> Message-ID: <961119011802_1649055413@emout01.mail.aol.com>
>
> HEH NICE JOB TINA!!! SUper.. maybe someday I will have a super fast
> horse..never made top ten in all the 20 years I have been doing this..close
> but never in that fast..
> Hope you have a nice winter off season.. Going to pull shoes on FASHA next
> week until Jan-Feb.. then start here up agin..not sure what she will do next
> year.. 19 yrs old.. should not be doing all these 50s..maybe jsut stay with
> NATRC..
> Will be starting my gelding 9 ..been off for 1.5 yrs with a damaged fetlock
> joint..appears good.. will find out soon. plan on riding him over the
> winter.. he WAS fast..have to try him again but SLOW for the first few rides
> to see if he stays sound.
>
> Congrats again... and nice Steve came with you.
>
> Roger
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:18:09 -0500
> From: VMAXEPT@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net, hickst@puzzler.nichols.com
> Subject: Re: older endurance horses
> Message-ID: <961119011808_1916652085@emout06.mail.aol.com>
>
> Old Horse
> Carol (wife) re-started her old end horse this year. He is 23, had him from
> 2. Home trained. Was our daughters horse.Did the OD100 (at the old Leesburg
> VA site) when he was 6 with only about 400 miles on him. Has almost a 1000
> miles now.
> Was let go when both of them quit riding.. Carol used Magic for a few ECTRA
> competitive rides in the 80s..she did other things .. sort of a burn out
> time..
> Our move to SE/Region 5 has sparked her desire to ride more oftem. When her
> 15 yr old mare had problems, she opted to try the old guy.
> He did a NATRC open ( 2 day 60) and the BSF 25 END. He is sound and full of
> it. Did not do well in NATRC.. ATTITUDE.. too many years in END and ECTRA at
> speed. He is tough a 'Double R Cross' from AL-MIRAH blood when Bazy T was
> based in MD. Suspect he will be on the NATRC circuit and a few 25 milers next
> year.
>
> Our OTHER old timer is 26..still sound can be ridden..but we dont ask him to
> compete.. even though I think he could do a fair 25 miler or NATRC open ride.
> I think it would be great for Carol to start him up again..
>
> Its nice to ride the old ones .. that still go ,have the fire ,and are SOUND.
> Roger
> Fasha --19 but who counts - and dont ask a lady how old she is
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 20:50:01 PST
> From: debadams@juno.com (Deborah S Adams)
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: missing digests
> Message-ID: <19961118.205339.5407.2.DebAdams@juno.com>
>
> I didn't receive ridecamp #93, 94, or 95, and I don't have access to the
> web for easy retrieval of same. My half @ friends have withdrawal pains
> when they don't get their full endurance list, so I'd appreciate it if
> someone could send me those back digests.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Deborah
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:55:51 -0500
> From: RUN4BEAR@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: anerobic threshold
> Message-ID: <961119015551_139872893@emout06.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 96-11-18 11:21:57 EST, you write:
>
>
> Of all the athletic disciplines where fat nutrition should come into
> beneficial play, endurance is it. However, tread cautiously. Use vegetable
> fat rather than animal fat--a mix of oils will be better than a single
> source--might as well get some nutritional value while you're at it. Eleanor
> Kellon tells me that safflower oil contains a lot of Q10--that's a plus.
> Corn
> oil that hasn't seen the sun is about 60% Medium Chain Triglycerides--also a
> benefit.
>
> ti
>
> I have found (as have others) that it is difficult to get horses to eat oil
> in their feed. Mine would leave their grain...just not eat it. I feed
> mostly corn anyway with no side effects and with a fit horse, have not seen a
> need to try further. Now, for the first time in 20 years I am feeding a
> complete feed pellet instead of my corn mix...several reasons...the mill
> (only one around here that would THINK of adding selenium) have changed since
> the owner died...AND hay has been a scarcety (good hay that is..I am used to
> feeding straight alfalfa year round and this was a terrible hay year,
> period). I will be starting some serious training late this winter and wonder
> what differences I may see. I hadn't changed my corn mix in 20 years.
>
> Teddy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 02:07:18 -0500
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: River Run 50 (story - long)
> Message-ID: <961119020716_139874552@emout08.mail.aol.com>
>
> In a message dated 96-11-19 01:19:37 EST, you write:
>
> << Congrats again... and nice Steve came with you.
>
> Roger >>
>
> Hey, Roger, was Tina using a V-Max?
>
> You folks should know that Roger took a rather primitive adaptation of a
> heartrate monitor and perfected it. I think the V-Max is best--use several of
> them every day.
>
> ti
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 02:09:10 -0500
> From: Tivers@aol.com
> To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> Subject: Re: anerobic threshold
> Message-ID: <961119020910_139874808@emout05.mail.aol.com>
>
> Teddy,
>
> you don't need a lot of oil--what are you doing up this late???
>
> ti
>
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