> I'm interested to know what kinds of access to conditioning places most of
> you have?? 
I don't know if I count as one of the "need not reply" type, but I will 
anyway.  I have a lease on 800 acres of pasture land that backs up to the 
Cleveland National Forrest which extends pretty much for hundreds of 
miles.  The one draw back being that it is steep!!! (This is an 
understatement).  It is riddled with canyons that lead to boxes, and 
roads that suddenly turn to firebreaks or lead to cliffs.  There is no 
way to go anywhere that isn't extremely steep.  ANd there is no water.
I tend to get kinda whiney cause I hafta ride on the road with
> the schoolbuses and dumptrucks and in the dirt pits with the bull-dozers
> and the motorbikes, 
If I want to take and "easy" ride, I will ride down the "driveway" (about 
1 mile and 700' of elevation change) to the frontage rode (along the 
freeway).  I consider riding along the freeway (91 which is a MAJOR 
thoroughfare) to be an essential part of the training of all my horses, 
and consider schoolbuses, duptrucks, and bull-dozers (of which we have 
many as the fire department is constantly out working on the firebreaks) 
to be schooling opportunities, and expect all of my horses to be able to 
go by them without even flinching.
>From there, I can get into the Santa Ana riverbed (and do some sand work),
Chino Hills State Park (and do some training about going through water as
you have to cross Aliso Creek about 8 times and learn about bicycles as it
is a favorite place for mountain bikers and you will meet about 50 on any
given weekend), or go to the Jack-in-the-Box (continuing up the paved
road, which I consider an essential part of endurance training), ride
through the drive-thru and get a soda. 
> and by the river with the mondo-flies and then there
> are the hunters in the fall  - well, you get the picture 
Or I can ride over to Coal Canyon where there is a private shooting range 
and teach the horses about gunfire (where else are they going to learn to 
deal with that shotgun (literally) start that they have at Sunland.
:-> But, I'm sure 
> most of you have to brave similar problems or more to get in your
> conditioning.
As I said, I don't consider anything a problem (except maybe I would 
mondo-flies), but rather schooling opportunities.  I will actually go 
looking for assorted horse-eating monsters to let them learn that they 
have nothing to fear.  I will wait for the train at the railroad 
crossing, wave to the truckers so they will honk their horns, take them 
to parades (where they learn about pavement, crowds, flags, children, 
horns, bands,.....you get my point).
> 
> Do most of you have one path that you do on a regular basis? 
Obviously not.
> Do you have to
> ride on the road? Lots of traffic?? 
Don't "have to" but I do anyway.
> Do you trailer on the weekends? 
Not for training purposes, but I might for a social occasion.
> Do you
> ride around and around and around your pastures to get in mileage?? 
Never to get in mileage, but I will ride around in the pasture with the 
loose horses to teach the horse that I am riding that when it is being 
ridden that it is no longer a part of the herd, it must listen to me.  
Come to think of it, this is the way they learn to be calm and mannerly 
at the start among the milling throng and madness that occurs at most 
rides (which has been discussed in the "warm-up" thread).  I will use the 
horse to round up the other horses but it is not allowed to gallop off 
after them if they head for the water trough.  I will make it stand among 
the herd while the horses at liberty come up and visit, dance and play, 
or whatever, and it is required to stand quietly or walk away if I ask it to.
kat
Orange County, Calif.