> >I'd like to hear from some of you that do some of your conditioning on the 
> >pavement. Unfortunately, I have no choice to do some of my weekly 
> >conditioning on pavement - I hate that but right now that's my only 
> >alternative in some places. What we actually trot on the pavement probably 
> >only amounts to about 5 - 8 miles a week but I hate every stride of it. Not 
> >only does it wear the living daylights out of metal shoes, I just cringe 
> >knowing the amount of concussion his legs must be taking. (I am getting my 
> >equithotics in this Friday - so part of that problem will soon be 
> >lessened.)
>      
> >Is this amount excessive? Does anyone else do this much or more on a 
> >regular basis?
One of our old horses had mild ringbone and road founder.  Our vet 
warned that repeated concussions on hard surfaces could <cause> 
both of these problems as well as worsen it.  He strongly advised no 
trotting or galloping on hard surfaces.  We agonized over every mile of 
hard surface that horse ever covered, thinking that we could have found
 some kind of alternative!  We were training on clay roads (WELL packed 
clay roads) for about 20 miles per week, not knowing any better at 
that time.
We now avoid pavemenet like the plague during conditioning.  If it is 
unavoidable, we WALK and try to stay to the edge.  (Our part of VA 
has about 10" of edge, then a 18" wide 3-4' deep ditch!  Not much 
room!!  It gets VERY interesting when a truck passes.)  In a competition, 
we may trot short sections out of necessity but we never are very 
happy about it.  As I said, we have hard pack clay roads in some of our 
trainingareas - nice & open for trotting & interval training.  We do notice 
more filling in the legs after working on a day when the ground is hard.  (& 
the clay is more resilient than hard top!)  We have stopped interval 
training and fast trotting on days when the clay is too packed, or trailer
to other places with a more forgiving surface.  (The water line at the beach 
is a good option!  We just stay out of the deep sand to avoid tendon 
problems.)
I am a believer that a horse has a certain amount of ability to 
recover from the wear & tear that he takes in his lifetime.  If I can 
lessen the day to day strain so he can compete & live comfortably, I 
will.  Why add to the mechanical stress on the leg if there is an 
option not to?  I realize that one of the responses to stress is to 
become stronger, but I think that there can be more stress on the 
horse's body he can cope with and recover from.  That is when stress 
injuries start to arise.  Or everyday training on good surfaces 
appears to be more than enough to stimulate an increase in bone 
density.
In answer to Tina's question about excessive road training, I believe 
any training on a hardtop road is excessive if there is any 
alternative.  If there is no alternative, WALKING on the hardtop to 
get to a better working area is the next best choice.  We trailer our 
horses 45 minutes to 2 hours JUST TO AVOID this type of 
problem.  (The 1.5 mile long bridle path in our neighborhood gets 
BORING after the 10th lap!!!) 
For those who say that takes to much time, IT CAN BE DONE!  (and 
we DO work full time, 5 days per week.  At the moment, we compete 
in 50's in the middle of the pack right now.)  I'd rather spend the time 
up front going to a good area to ride than nursing an injury & not riding 
at all.
Linda Flemmer 
ABF Challenger ("Rocket") & Eternal Point ("Major")
Blue Wolf Equestrian Supplies/ Blue Wolf Ranch
Chesapeake, VA
   "In case of emergency - Fur side up, steel side down!"