ridecamp@endurance.net: Re: [endurance] Chryptorchid colts

Re: [endurance] Chryptorchid colts

Allen Randall (maven@foothills.eznet.com)
Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:26:13 -0700

Would someone please define "proud cut". It seems to me that if you remove
the testicle (which produces the hormone) that you have taken care of the
problem. If the horse is still acting "studish" it may be a matter of
"habit" (because the animal was used for breeding before) or just an
obnoxious disposition. Several of the vets I have asked this of tell me that
the hormones are not produced in the epididymous. I have watched a number of
"geldings" and I have seen nothing left after the surgery was completed.
This is really confusing. Could this be another "old wives" tale? This
will probably rank right up there with "color" as a topic! Al

>Why, pray tell, would a vet refuse to geld a cryptorchid colt?
>Because they don't want to dig around for a testicle that may not
>be there?
>
>In an extreme case like the one posted to this list where there
>never was a second testicle, couldn't the testosterone levels in
>the blood be tested? I mean, if you know you've gotten one and
>can't find the other in 3 attempts, why not just look for testosterone
>in the blood? No 2nd testicle, no testosterone? Right?
>
>We had a colt gelded at 2.5 at our ranch. Owned by the same lady
>I bought Magnum from. He really beat up on the other geldings when
>turned out. We shared a vet back then so the conversation went
>something like this: (names have been changed... I don't know why!)
>
>(me)
>"You know, that Blazer sure acts studdish."
>(vet)
>"Sounds like he's proud cut. For $80.00 we can run a blood test and
>find out. If he's proud cut we can fix that."
>"Great I'll tell Sally"
>"Who gelded him?"
>"You did."
>"Well... then he's not proud cut!"
>
>... yeah right. And people *never* make mistakes either. I have a new
>vet now. Anyways, the point is it sounded to me like No Testicle, No
>Testosterone.
>
>Why no blood test?
>
>:) - kat
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