ridecamp@endurance.net: Re: [endurance] Arabian Research On-Line

Re: [endurance] Arabian Research On-Line

Gwen Dluehosh (dluehosh@vt.edu)
Tue, 12 Dec 1995 02:12:05 -0500 (EST)

Thanks for some valid points. YOu are right that they are to keep track of
the lines and that's all. I just want to make it easier to get more info on
these guys! I AM interested in preservation of the breed and the older
lines. Maybe I should just say that this is a DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION with
DIRFFERNT GOALS?

> I don't have a problem with the concept of paying. It's taken a lot to
> get the information in the system. I *do* have a problem that just
> because they do not know or understand the internet they are rejecting it
> out of hand as a medium for accessing pedigree records. I recognize the
YES.
> need for security but the entire database isn';t all that big. The system
> was purchased and installed at a time when computers were very different.
YES, they could easily make backups.

> They information could be made available in another form. There was some
> talk about producing a CD-ROM but no word on it. My major concern is that
> as a Macintosh user I do not want to be left out, hence my preference for
> an Internet connection.
Well, we would be able to accommodate you if all works out the way I want it
too. ALso, we would eventually be able to do all the breeds in endurance ,
not just Arabs. (make that as many breeds as people would like!!)
So this doesn't just affect the AHR people.

> Most of us who do pedigree research have over the years bought our
> materials. Some of the more important and rare historical books can cost
> over $500 each! The registry has to have all that information for all
> countries recognized by the World Arabian HOrse Organization.

OK, I know some of this, but that leaves some of us without the money no way
to get more info on our horses.
Is WAHO on line?

> Actually, if you do any geneological research you *do* pay to find out
> geneologies even on yourself. Again, I don't have a problem with the
> payment as such. I do have a problem with the access.
Point taken.

> about keeping the breed intact. There is no recognition of the need to
> preserve genetic variability or in fact track anything. All they are
> mandated to do by their own mission statement is to keep a database of
> purebred Arabain horses and ensure the purity of horses registered in the
> US.
MAybe they should stick to this, for the most part they do, but I have a
problem with it when you have to be a MEMBER to get a discount on
registrations. (I am) I have also gotten into a heated discusison about
their registration fees. They claim it is only $35 to register a horse, but
yet if I pay my money and send in my forms I won't get papers on my horse.
IT now has to be bloodtyped whether you want to or not. I have no problem
with blood typing, but I do have a problem with the fact that what they say
and what appears in the Handbook don't agree. NOWHERE does it even imply
that it only costs $35 for the the registration. They automatically include
the BT fee. It caused problems when I had to reinstate a mare from 1985, and
they DID give me the original registration fee, but never said, oh, you have
to pay extra for bloodtyping now that she has a foal that you want to
register. (I had told them the situation) AFTER we sent our money they
said, hey, you can't register this horse, the dam has no bloodtyping done!!
It was my understanding that the BT fee was included in her fee! ANyway, we
got it somewhat straightened out, but I couldn't believe how UNWILLING they
could be to help me out. There, now you sort of know!!
Anyway, if anyone is still ticked, GO look at the horse racing pedigrees!
IT is very useful in this format!
Gwen
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