Ridecamp: Re: [RC] [PNER] Fw:"New LD riders"

The thing is, whatever rules or thoughts were formed concerning LD riders
twenty or thirty years ago no longer apply.  Endurance has changed since
then, especially when it comes to Limited Distance.  Down here, we do have
some LD "professionals," and to treat them like pre-teenage school children
is a big mistake.  You will (and already have, for some) alienate those who
don't appreciate being talked down to.

What I'm noticing is some of the folks who are making the decisions about
LD's for AERC do not even do LD's themselves or haven't done one for quite
some time.  Things have changed and we need to take notice.  Make the LD
exactly, and I mean exactly like the 50 miler.  The heart rate parameter for
the finish line is confusing and unnecessary.  Those days have come and
gone.

The idea that you can't have a finish line for an LD because things went
wrong 20 or 30 years ago when you first tried that is ludicrous.  Things
went wrong back then because you used 76BPM as a "fit to continue" barometer
and didn't have vet checks.  Come on, let's quit living in the past and face
the future.  Let the LD riders decide by letting them choose their own
spokesperson.  I recommend anyone who is on the LD Committee of AERC, not a
seasoned hundred miler or someone on the board who has never done an LD or
hasn't done one in over ten years.

cya,
Howard (who will always ride the LD at Leatherwood)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dot Wiggins" <dotwgns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <PNER@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] [PNER] Fw:"New LD riders"


> I just went thru some LD ride results,  only those where I know most of
the
> people
>   I counted those I knew who were riders that ride often.  If I didn't
know
> them, I counted as "new", may or may not be right.  In the 13 rides I
> counted, of 242 total riders, there were 42 that are, or may be, new
comers.
> Of those known to me, some only do LD, but most go back and forth between
> Endurance and LD.
> In this area it is pretty clear LDs are not really "training" rides for
> most.   Maybe for the horse.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Endurzrider" <EndurzRider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <PNER@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > I also agree that many of the riders doing 25's aren't necessarily new
at
> > endurance, it would be interesting to know what the percentage is of
"new"
> > riders doing the LD, to experienced riders riding that distance.
> >
>
>
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