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    Re: [RC] [RC] Finish Line question for LD Riders - Howard Bramhall


    That's another matter entirely.  We are actually talking about a finish line
    for 25's.  And, my question is, "Why not?"  What, exactly are we trying to
    teach them (the LD rider) by not having one?  That they are different; not
    true endurance riders?  We've already taught them that.  This gets back to
    the inclusive/exclusive thing I was trying to discuss.  Why not do all we
    can to make it inclusive?  We certainly don't hesitate taking their money at
    our rides, why not make them happy so they keep coming back?
    
    The 25 is a fast ride.  The pulse criteria does get most of them not to race
    to the finish, because there is no finish line, but, what exactly are we
    trying to teach with this silly rule?  Not to race at the finish?  Well,
    guess what, endurance riders do race at the finish line in both the 50's and
    the 100's.
    
    At Goethe, last week-end, there was an incredible race to the finish in the
    100 between my gal, Val, and a guy named Bud.  Val even told the story at
    the awards on Sunday.  A hundred miles of stories she could have told to the
    crowd, but she picked the race to the finish to talk about, and everyone
    listened.  I had a front row seat.
    
    So, are we saying the LD rider isn't good enough, doesn't know enough to
    decide whether or not to race at the finish?  Kind of arrogant on our part,
    if that's what we're saying.  Make it exactly like the 50, so that when they
    do decide to step up, they've been well trained and nothing is different.
    Keeping things simple eliminates confusion.
    
    cya,
    Howard (who spends most of his day bewitched, bewildered, & confused)
    
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Nancy Mitts" <mitts_n@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    To: <anyone@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Cc: <Ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:30 AM
    Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Finish Line question for LD Riders
    
    
    > Have I missed something?
    > I thought the "clarification" was in regards to the 50 milers having 60
    > minutes for their completion exam, as opposed to 30 at any other check.
    > I don't recall LD's being addressed in this issue, and assumed they still
    > only had 30 minutes.  This being based on the fact that 50's may be
    > recovering from a full out race to the finish, while the 25's are being
    > discouraged from doing so.
    >
    > Nancy Mitts
    >
    >
    > >Remember that the rules were clarified, they have 1 hour for the
    completion
    > >check, just like the 50s--but this calculation has been from the time
    they
    > >pulse down.  Should it  be based on when they cross the finish line, not
    > >when they pulse down?
    > >
    > >Lynne
    >
    >
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