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 Yes, Sandy, horses have jobs. Don't be silly. Even 
if it's just to be an expensive pet and entertain the owner, a horse 
has got a job and if they aren't good at it, they risk losing it. And 
yes, horses are very cognizant of their status in the herd... they understand 
being demoted and replaced, and it feels threatening to 
them. 
  
It sure sounds like a lot of folks disagree with your 
assessment that these front runners in the IAHA ride are over riding their 
horses, including the vets at the ride... I'm sure they're qualified.  I 
haven't seen the video, but your opinion on one side and the opinions 
of many vet and riders I respect on the other side?  
 
  
I don't condone over riding a horse. I'm a moderate, 
uncompetitive rider but Gavilan's a good enough horse that I can top 
ten on occasion without pushing him at all. I do support riding a horse the 
way Heather rides Red, because she wouldn't ask too much of him, for emotional 
as well as ethical reasons. I'd let Heather ride Gavilan in a ride, and there 
are VERY few people that I'd let do that. Definitely Julie Suhr and Maryben. 
Gavilan's not my horse, he's my partner, my soul mate. I feel that way about all 
of my horses... 
  
Most of us grow to love our horses, Sandy, but when we 
buy our horses we buy them because the have the ability to become a part of 
our life. People who ride endurance buy endurance caliber horses, but 
if those horses don't like endurance and the rider is determined to do 
it, sometimes the horse gets sold. This happens even in Montana, right? 
Sometimes those horses are good at loafing and balk at any sort of riding, they 
won't do ANY job, and yes, sometimes they end up in bad homes or meat 
auctions. If that's unpleasant for you to contemplate...  life is not 
always what we'd like. 
  
Sometimes bad things happen to great horses even when 
we try and protect them. stay tuned to for the sequel. 
  
Linda Cowles  
Horse 'N 
Hound  
New, 
Consigned & Used Tack 
9155 North State St.,  Redwood Valley, CA 95470 
EASY  access with Hwy 101 
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Store: 
707-485-0347               
Fax:  707-485-4053 
 
  
Running is their JOB? They CHOOSE to keep 
going...because they understand that it is how they earn their position in the 
community????? Wow...and what kind of LEADERS are we...???? Because these world 
class horses will follow us anywhere....does that give us the right to push them 
to their absolute limits...because it is their JOB and we are their 
LEADERS?  If my horse (friend, partner) falters because of my lack of 
ethical leadership...I am embarrassed and ashamed in the eyes of my horse...ask 
his forgiveness and try to do better by him next time. 
"They have to uphold their part of the deal or all 
bets are off"?? And our part of the deal is only to make sure they are well 
cared for when not competing??...What is our "part of the deal" when we are 
riding them??...competing via their "wings" for our own ego gratification?  
Their wings are no good to us if our egos, and lack of compassion cause the sky 
to be taken away (that is a quote from somewhere) 
  
I too am out of here..this is not a "community" of 
which I wish to be a part. 
   
  ----- Original Message -----  
  
  
  Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 7:56 
  PM 
  Subject: ridecamp 
  
  Horses CAN choose not to run, but these horses 
  choose to keep going. They  understand that running is their job, how they 
  earn their position in the  community. It's their job, for gods sake. Some 
  of you may not understand  that, but somehow these horses do. Horses 
  understand the stark reality of  life better than we do because of their 
  awareness of the constant presence  of unseen predators. They understand 
  that we're the leaders who 
  ...... geez it keep going  "seen 
  pedators" are  Man. "choose to keep going "  No choice  in 
  the hand of the rider.  yes they do get well taken care of  but i 
  dont think many know how to ride them. i sorry to write  you but im 
  just getting this out  and  ill have to stop reading ridecamp like 
  most of my friends got rid of it  it got too much stupidity.  now 
  should we bring back Cliify Lewis?        
  se 
  
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