| Frank:   I 
understand your concerns about obtaining relatively "general data" concerning 
the horses. But then consider, we must crawl before we can walk or run. 
   Obtaining relatively useful data depends on the source of that data and 
the reliability of that data. To date, simple things like foaling dates of the 
horse (and/or birth dates of riders) has proven unreliable even when the 
information is readily available. We cannot even get accurate, 
reliable information regarding the starters in a ride. So, to obtain stacks 
of finite, unsupported data regarding the horses would be a waste of 
everyone's time and energy.    We 
were starting out asking the simple basics of the cause of the horse being 
eliminated from the ride. Was the basic cause related to two categories? First, 
the Horse or the Rider? Then when that is determined, if the cause was the 
horse, the question became Lame or Metabolic? End of questions! Simple was 
it not?  Two little simple questions answerable by one word in each 
instance. Hardly takes much thought. But we cannot get those answers because 
people, for some unknown reason cannot, will not, do not want to, answer 
with one of those choices,  Again, Was the basic cause horse or 
rider. If horse, was the basic cause lameness of 
metabolic.    Now, you tell me why the membership cannot conform with such a 
simple thing.    Bob    Bob MorrisMorris Endurance Enterprises
 Boise, ID
 
  If a horse, when assigned a Horse I.D. Number by the 
  AERC, was also issued a Ride History Book to track that particular horse's 
  ride history/performance.  Perhaps, as an organization we would then have 
  relevant data on our horses.  "Relevant" in that the welfare of the horse 
  could be monitored, assisted, documented.At the end of 
  a ride, the Head Vet and Ride Manager would transcribe the results of that 
  particular rides, that particular horse.
 Such as,  
  WIN A WATERBOTTLE 100 
  MILER
 "HORSE X Overall:  A-
 No gait aberrations, no metabolic 
  issues
 signed: Head 
  Vet
 HORSE finished_____ out of 
  _______starters.
 signed: Ride Manager
 Then, that book would have to be 
  presented at that horse's next ride.  The pre-ride Vet could "focus" a 
  bit more attention to a previously "documented" issue.  (I know, I know, 
  do we really want this...I'd say, do really want to do something with pull 
  codes or not?)
 If said Horse shows up at ride after ride 
  with the same "issues", as an organization, the AERC would have to have an 
  avenue available to help that horse.
 I strongly believe 
  that an endurance horse is the responsibility of the rider...I also believe 
  that the AERC needs to be able to DOCUMENT its concern for the welfare of the 
  horses who are used in this sport.
 I think we, the 
  community of endurance riders who make up the AERC, need to either "put up" or 
  "shut up".
 If I'm wrong, I know you will tell me so...do 
  not hesitate to do just that...I'd like to "focus" this conversation a bit 
  more.
 Unless it is just "conversation".
 Frank.
 
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