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I have no problems with vet checks, actually enjoy them. Most of the rides in this region have three per 50 miles.
There is really no ture multdays, i.e. where you have to finish all days to get any credit at all. There are a few two day 100's but most people have figured out you are better off to do two 50's than the 2 day 100, since if you got pulled at 45 miles on the second day of the 2 day 100, then you got no credit.
So if it looks like a 50 mile ride, it smells like a 50 mile ride, it is sanctioned as a 50 mile ride chances are it is a 50 mile ride - and should fall under the same rules and standards as any 50 mile ride.
Truman
Kathy Mayeda wrote:
I love it when we start arguing over nothing.Okay, to start off with - rules are mandatory, right? Standards are discretionary, maybe? I was talking standards. I was looking for that "completion only" lingo in the AERC rules but couldn't find it. The only thing that I think that is majorly different about the DVE multi-day that I expereinced vs. the one-day ride is the number of vet checks. I just read the veterinary manual and they recommend a vet check 2-3 times during the course of a 50 mile ride which is normal for a single day ride. We only had one lunch vet check, and no other vet checks DURING the ride, although there was sometimes a vet at the water stops for the 50 milers to handle the lunch hold for the LD riders. (Okay, and yeah, the vet checks themselves were totally different, too than a normal one-day ride, but maybe we won't go there in this discussion because that's a whole other different ball of wax.)All I can say is that during the DVE, I felt a lot less harassed during the ride by having less vet checks. AND my horse got actually got stronger towards the last two days of the ride, so he certainly wasn't suffering from the lack of vet checks.So what was your experience with a multi-day? Was it exactly like doing a regular single day ride, day after day? I would go vet check bonkers if I had to do 20 vet checks over the course of 5 days.K.=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/RideCamp =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------Original Message-----Nor did I say it was. I was simply responding to your comment, "
From: Truman Prevatt [mailto:tprevatt@mindspring.com]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:52 PM
To: Kathy Mayeda
Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject: Re: Multiday/Rules
While I could argue that a multi-day shouldn’t be held to the same standards as one day rides, because it IS a totally different animal….. " Your words not mine.Truman
Kathy Mayeda wrote:
Truman - read this: I DO NOT THINK THE DECISION WAS MADE LIKE THIS JUST BECAUSE IT WAS A MULTI-DAY..... PERIOD.K.-----Original Message-----Hmmmmmmm.......... why so? Multiday rides are sanctioned as one day rides! You can do them one at a time. Do you think they should be exempt from the rules of AERC? Do you think lame horses should be allowed to go on just because it is a "multiday?" The DVE was sanctioned as four one day rides. This is ture for most "multday rides." The are sanctioned as one day rides. Why is a one day ride with another on the following day any different than any other one day ride and why should it have different rules and standards. The Pioneer status is secondary.
From: Truman Prevatt [mailto:tprevatt@mindspring.com]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:29 PM
To: Kathy Mayeda
Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
Subject: Re: Multiday/RulesAnd to answer your question, yes.
Kathy Mayeda wrote:
While I could argue that a multi-day shouldn’t be held to the same standards as one day rides, because it IS a totally different animal….. I believe this practice of giving off-course people completions only as discretionary by the ride manager has nothing to do with it being a multi-day ride in this case.
Sometimes there is miscalculation somehow on trail markings by the ride management’s part and several people miss the proper turn off, and therefore the ride management may give completions only rather than standing around and pointing fingers at each other. It happened to me on a one-day fifty. I believe this was a similar situation here – or something like the vet wasn’t present at the vet check, or the vet check was marked wrong…. don’t know the whole story, and frankly don’t care. IT REALLY DOESN’T MATTER.
Have you done a multi-day Truman?
K.
Truman sez:
The thing that may be a bit troubling ( and hope my interpretation of some pervious post are not correct in this matter ) in this whole thread is that "it should not be held accountable to the same standard because it is a multiday ride." Every sanctioned AERC ride should play by the same set or rules. Truman
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