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    Re: [RC] maping, marking and GPS - Heidi Smith


    >2) Is there a standard marking system? 
        Well, you have struck a pet peeve of mine, Charles.  
     
    This is also one of my pet peeves, but from the opposite side of the issue.  When an area has multiple trail users, standardized markers get VERY confusing.  In areas where I've put on rides, I've had to share the trails with bike groups, hiking groups, other horse groups, timber sales, hunters, and likely some others that I've failed to mention, and if we all used the same trail marking schemes, we'd be forever confused.  One of the ride manager's tasks out here in the West on public land is to come up with a marking scheme that is different from the other marking schemes used in the same area at the same time so that our riders as well as the other users are not confused.  USFS also required us to tell them with what we were marking, so that they could tell which trails were which, that each user's trail actually corresponded with their proposed maps, and who did or did not accomplish their trail cleanup.  As for standardized markings--having marked trails that vary from heavy timber to miles and miles of stubby grassland, there simply is no one "right" way that shows up on everything.  So you have to consider what terrain you're traversing before coming up with the "right" way to mark trail. 
     
    I have to agree with Barbara McCrary that the most visible markers we ever came up with in timber were double ribbons, and we found that either pink or orange together with a white ribbon worked best.  Second thing is to make them LONG and plentiful.  However, in marking sagebrush, the white ribbons are far less necessary, so we often did our "grassland" rides with either just hot pink or just blaze orange.  (The blaze orange contrasted better with the sage for our colorblind riders, and the LONG ribbons helped them out as well, as they were better able to catch some motion or a visual line if the contrast was not sufficient.)  Third thing is turns--and although it pays to have a somewhat standardized system for indicating that turns are coming up (three ribbon pairs together, or whatever), you CANNOT standardize your turn system, because you WILL find "special need" intersections.  We pretty much always blocked off "wrong ways" with a line of dolomite--I'm surprised that this is considered unacceptable by some land management systems, as it is the same stuff used to "chalk" lines on football fields and is also used to enhance soils for gardening.  We WERE required to go back and rub the lines and arrows out after the rides, which was fine.  (BTW, dolomite works far better than gypsum, and is easier to obliterate after a rain--we used gypsum for years, and I wouldn't go back to it for anything.)  Paper plates are fine for some things, but a real pain to mark 50 miles or more, compared to ribbon--but they make great "signs" such as arrows or mileage markers or verbal instructions ("Vet Check 1/2 mile or that sort of thing).  They are much more suitable to timber than to sagebrush or grassland.  And sometimes in stubby grassland country, one has to resort to some kind of stake with a flag--wooden, fiberglass, or in some cases, one can use those little wire stakes with the little colored plastic squares on them.  Marking trail is an art, and there are folks who just have a knack for it, and those who just can't seem to figure it out.  As a rider, I find that it doesn't matter as much HOW the trail is marked as it does who marks it--the folks who have a knack know just where to put a marker to catch your eyes.  And the briefing should include whether there are variations in how the trail is marked--for instance, if you've used one method in heavy timber but have had to traverse alkali flats or grasslands or some such with another marking method.
     
    Heidi

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