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 Linda, I have noticed that when I ride bareback, 
relaxed, my knees and toes point out naturally, This is also the way my legs 
fall in the Sport saddle.  I am 46, and have NO aches and pains by riding 
this way.  I also have horses that don;t need a lot of leg or contact on 
them.  Personally, I can' t imagine riding with "proper equitation" for 
hours on the trail. I don't believe it is a natural position for the body, 
and that it benefits the horse more if you are just, plain relaxed and go along 
with the horses movement.  My proof of this is getting off at the end of 
the day with no aches and pain, and horses without sore backs. 
  
My bottom line, though, is that your heels still 
should be somewhat under your hips, especially when you are out of the saddle 
posting.  I STILL see photos of many endurance riders in a "chair 
seat".  Then again, I still see lots of endurance horses with white patches 
on their withers, indicating bad saddle fit and/or rider position 
Karen (opinionated as usual) 
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  I think maybe I'm going to experiment with deliberately 
  improper leg positions (knees and toes pointing outward) 
  just to see if it makes any difference.  I've already noticed 
  that "heels down" isn't a biggie with endurance riders. 
    
  Linda B. Merims 
  
  Massachusetts, USA 
     
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